(December 13, 2012 at 6:57 am)Aractus Wrote:(December 12, 2012 at 1:39 pm)Minimalist Wrote: If it is all the same to you, I'll place a little more credence in secular historians, epigraphers, and archaeologists rather than these pious frauds who sit around telling each other how fucking holy they are.(December 12, 2012 at 2:15 pm)Minimalist Wrote: I like heretics.The issue here is you've gone from one to the other.
Far more impressive than people who believe in bullshit.
So who exactly is the "consensus" of yours between? The gnostics? Real impressive mate.
I suggest you read Bart Ehrman's "Lost Christianities" You have a lot to learn about the gnostics.
Yes, they were just as fucked up as the proto-orthodox but so much of your bullshit was forced on the church by trying to counteract gnostic or other heretical groups.