RE: Again....But it's never the guns!
December 17, 2012 at 11:43 pm
(This post was last modified: December 17, 2012 at 11:58 pm by Cato.)
(December 17, 2012 at 10:35 pm)Shell B Wrote: I just want to point out that most people do not realize that a former Vice President almost started a war and split the country in half. His name was Aaron Burr. He was even impeached for treason, but let go. Nonetheless, historians have enough evidence to assume he was a douchehat that wanted his own half of the U.S. He was also almost the president, but missed on a technicality and wound up Vice President to the man who had defeated him.
History. It's one of those things you should care a little about before suggesting that such and such a thing never happens.
Let's not forget the fact that he killed Hamilton in a duel, with a gun.
(December 17, 2012 at 9:28 pm)The_Germans_are_coming Wrote: It never happened in history that the head of goverment in a democratic nation used the politicaly independent body of a nations defence forces to establish a dictatorship with the former head of goverment in power.
What a load of shit! You set up a gauntlet of conditions in an attempt to make your point.
1. Independent body of a nation's defence. Where is it that the military arm of a nation's defence is not under direct supervision of the controlling political party?
2. The point of establishing a dictatorship is to throw out the previous base of power. Eliminating a tyrant's succession by invoking the condition that the former head of state remain in place is fucking stupid. A tyrant/dictator, by definition, can't exist with the previous head of state in place. You have chosen to frame an arguable conclusion by definition that defies the meaning of the concept you were arguing against!!!!
