Again....But it's never the guns!

[Creed of Heresy]

Obviously I know what the pro-gun advocates would like.

What is it the anti-gun advocates want? I'm just curious. Could one of you write me out a summary of the legislation that you feel would protect the constitution and offer the safeguards that we all would like to see? Or is the abolishment of the 2nd Amendment that you would like?

No accusation here. Just curious.

Here are ten items, to start with. For brevity's sake, assume that any mention of firearms involves those designed to discharge ammo or shot of sufficient size and/or with sufficient force to be lethal. So, I'm not talking about pellet or BB guns.

Whee! I get to piece-by-piece! 8D

1. All firearms regardless of size, shape or purpose should be registered with authorities. This registration should be renewed on a regular basis.

Yes.

2. All transactions involving firearms, even if no money is exchanged, must be reported to authorities by all involved parties within 24 hours of the transaction.

Yes.

3. Magazines should be limited to carry no more than six rounds.

Mm, sorry, but since I go to the shooting range and I partake at minimum in 10-round 15-second shoots, unless there's a caveat allowing this for recreational purposes then...no, I'm gonna have a problem with this and so are others.

4. All firearms which are designed to fire in full automatic or burst automatic should be completely banned. Modifying an existing firearm to give it either capability should be a class-D felony.

Draconian. No. If the guns are all already registered and regularly reported, all felonious individuals barred from purchase and mandated safety classes are taken, and possessing an unregistered firearm is a Class E and carrying a weapon of any kind in public is illegal, this becomes extraneous.

5. Knowingly possessing any unregistered firearm should be a class-E felony. The sale or transfer of an unregistered firearm should be a class-D felony.

Agreed. I would actually bump up the sale or transfer to a higher felony since they would be knowingly partaking in sales of highly dangerous material where, in a society where the other laws were implemented, would realize that no good was going to come from this sale/transfer.

6. No more than one firearm of any variety may be possessed by all persons living in a household. Registered hunters may possess a second, which cannot be a handgun.

Again, no, draconian. If the other laws are in effect, and you own one gun, then what harm is owning multiple fully-licensed and registered firearms going to be, especially if you're a shooting enthusiast like me who uses different guns for different conditions? This is, again, extraneous.

7. No firearms may be carried concealed in public places under any circumstances.

Eh. I'm kind of undecided on this one. On the one hand, chances are if you're carrying a concealed firearm, you may be up to no good. On the other, carrying a concealed firearm has saved my life several times. I might state this as extraneous; if all guns are registered, and every individual has to go through an extensive background check to clear their right to purchase or own a firearm, then there can't be any harm in carry-concealing. Then again, there's a first time for everything. And why would you need to carry-conceal if every gun is registered and all possessors checked? Maybe if you're suspicious of the government's ability to actually do its damn job...like any sensible human being would be, you would. I'd lean towards the "no" here but I'd be willing to hear some debate on it.

8. Conviction of any violent offense should bar a person from possessing firearms permanently, unless the conviction is overturned.

Yes. This. A thousand times "Yes this!"

9. In order to qualify for a firearms license, one must pass a mandated firearms safety training program annually.

Agreed. I would go on to add that if you fail any of these tests you must turn over all firearms until you next pass the test...a year later. If you don't like it, too fucking bad; you should've been paying more attention to safely maintaining and securing the lethal weaponry you possessed.

10. All firearms must be stored in a locked, stationary safe in the home (not in a shed or auxiliary building) when not in use. The safe must be registered with authorities. Unless specifically being transported, firearms may not be stored in vehicles for any reason. The owner is responsible for making sure the firearms are secure.

Sure, why not. I would state that perhaps there should be specifically-made gun lockers sold at discounted prices when purchasing one's first firearm to facilitate this, but that'd be a business decision. A sort of "necessary accessory" kind of thing.

The second amendment gives you the right to own firearms, but that right should not be without significant limits. It should not be easy or cheap, as it is now. The question every person should ask themselves before purchasing a weapon is "how much do I really need this"?

The limitations should not be on the possession of quantity but rather should be on the limitations of the individual to show responsibility. One who is responsible and mature and of good intent should never suffer for those who are irresponsible, immature, and of foul intent. I would add that two psychological reviews should be made by separate psychologists to determine the mental health of an individual prior to being licensed to own a firearm, and that for any healthcare provider accepting an "incentive" to clear the individual for purchase should be a punishable Class E felony, along with the individual being stripped of their license to practice.

The question should not be "how much do I really need this," but rather "who should be the one paying the penalty for being a murderous dick?"[/quote]