RE: Again....But it's never the guns!
December 19, 2012 at 8:09 am
(This post was last modified: December 19, 2012 at 8:09 am by Something completely different.)
(December 18, 2012 at 9:16 pm)Shell B Wrote: Just to be clear, there is only one kind of reality. In it, you get pissed easily. I choose to be amused. You also contradict yourself and I would think you had more integrity if you tried to help me understand what you mean, as it could be a language problem instead of flipping out. So, I don't bother fishing up examples you could easily find on your own if you were not so full of yourself. Still, I often agree with you.
Oh I get pissed when someone is simply an ignorant ass! And even more pissed if I get accused of something which I`m not!
I dont think there is any language problem, since others perfectly seem to understand what I am talking about. And when I do express myself in an ununderstandable way, most people here have the courtesy to point my mistakes out to me. Actualy, I think everyone here when confronted with contradictions is ready to point these out! You eighter regress into this kind of behavior when not capable of delivering any argument.
Or you simply like to annoy people!
(December 18, 2012 at 10:07 pm)Ryantology Wrote: Here are ten items, to start with. For brevity's sake, assume that any mention of firearms involves those designed to discharge ammo or shot of sufficient size and/or with sufficient force to be lethal. So, I'm not talking about pellet or BB guns.
1. All firearms regardless of size, shape or purpose should be registered with authorities. This registration should be renewed on a regular basis.
agreed.
Quote:2. All transactions involving firearms, even if no money is exchanged, must be reported to authorities by all involved parties within 24 hours of the transaction.
agreed
Quote:3. Magazines should be limited to carry no more than six rounds.
nope, how the product is used should be the buisniss of the owner, unless he plans to commit a crime.
Quote:4. All firearms which are designed to fire in full automatic or burst automatic should be completely banned. Modifying an existing firearm to give it either capability should be a class-D felony.
nope, I think fully automatic aswell as semi automatic rifles should be available.
Quote:5. Knowingly possessing any unregistered firearm should be a class-E felony. The sale or transfer of an unregistered firearm should be a class-D felony.
agreed.
Quote:6. No more than one firearm of any variety may be possessed by all persons living in a household. Registered hunters may possess a second, which cannot be a handgun.
Disagree. A person who is able to purchase fire arms should be able to buy as many as he can afford.
Unless this purson is planning to commit criminal offences with those weapons - like illegaly selling them, arming a criminal organisation, smuggling them into foreign countries and other....
Also I think that the arming of paramilitary political organisations aswell as the arming and formation of political militias should be forbidden.
Quote:7. No firearms may be carried concealed in public places under any circumstances.
agreed, except for the "under any circumstances" part, and the wordconceiled should be better defined. Some would define a gun in the trunk of a car as "conceiled".
Quote:8. Conviction of any violent offense should bar a person from possessing firearms permanently, unless the conviction is overturned.
Agreed.
Quote:9. In order to qualify for a firearms license, one must pass a mandated firearms safety training program annually.
Agreed. May I add, that people should also be required to go through a psycological test, and that futur health problems should be reported to the authorities by the doctors aswell as possible futur criminal offences - after which authorities should have the right to confiscate the firearms.
Quote:10. All firearms must be stored in a locked, stationary safe in the home (not in a shed or auxiliary building) when not in use. The safe must be registered with authorities. Unless specifically being transported, firearms may not be stored in vehicles for any reason. The owner is responsible for making sure the firearms are secure.
Well our laws here in Germany say that the owner is comitted to storing a firearm safely - question is - how to check that? - it would be a violation of an individuals legal rights to search his or her house simply for the purpose of making sure that guns are safely stored.
And I think individuals should be free to transport firearms in their cars.
Quote:The second amendment gives you the right to own firearms, but that right should not be without significant limits. It should not be easy or cheap, as it is now. The question every person should ask themselves before purchasing a weapon is "how much do I really need this"?
That is a question which the individual should ask him or herself and also answere for him or herself. It is not the job of the goverment to answere that question when there are no facts which show that there is reason for the goverment to intervene due to restore public safety.