Theological Breakthrough: Problem of Suffering Refuted, Permanently

[TaraJo]

westboro atheists,

Yes, because atheists are always going around with signs saying "God Hates Fags."

Just...... no.

Where do I begin?

How about this? God is supposed to be all-powerful, right? He created the universe and everything in it, right? He even created the laws of physics and everything else like that, right?

So, God then created suffering when he didn't have to.

And this is where your reply goes down the drain, who said God 'causes' suffering? He does no such thing, only in justice towards evil(murders, rapists, etc), The Argument is He ALLOWS evil, big difference. that is the argument, God must allow suffering to prevent further, suffering.

If he 'had' to create suffering, he isn't all-powerful.

Re-read what I wrote, where did I say He 'created' suffering, changing the word allow with create changes the whole thing.

I said God 'created' suffering, although 'causes' works, too.

How's this for an example: I bit my lip pretty good the other day and that hurt. I actually left a sore there from the cut and it still hurts when I try to eat certain foods. If God did not want that to hurt, he could have created me without pain receptors. Instead, he put nerves all over my body with only one job: feel pain. Clearly pain was part of his devine plan from the very start, which kinda turns God into a psychotic, masochistic fuck if you ask me.

Evil has nothing to do with pain and suffering. The Bible, you holy book, describes 'evil' as things like working on Sunday, homosexuality (I have lots of fun with that one), wearing clothes made out of more than one fabric and eating shrimp. None of those things cause suffering directly. Indirectly, sure, but anything can cause suffering indirectly.

And there are some pretty natural things that cause quit a bit of pain and suffering. Death is a big one; I had a friend die last summer and that was painful for me and the rest of his friends and family. Our own death is probably going to be painful, too. Cancer is pretty natural and it's incredibly painful. Have you ever seen someone die, slowly and painfully, from parkinsons? I have. It's not fun at all. Have you ever watched someone's mind slowly slip away from them while they're in the grips of alzheimers? Again, I have and it's incredibly painful to watch; I can only imagine how painful it is to experience. Have you ever sat there with your partner while she went through a miscarriage? I have and, again, it was painful for both of us.

Free will is a piece of shit argument. One of the first things God does is limit our free will. The claim is that we're all tainted with sin because of original sin, right? Does that mean I have enough free will to sin but I don't have enough to not sin? If God was so concerned with free will that he was willing to sacrifice himself to himself to change his rule, couldn't he have bothered to give us enough free will to reject sin on our own?

You're pretty good at verbal gymnastics, I'll give you that, but explaining things in a complicated way is just a fancy way of making yourself look stupid. Try again.