(December 30, 2012 at 10:07 pm)Lion IRC Wrote: And my complaint is that, if I were an atheist/godless person doing whatever law-of-the-jungle stuff I was able to get away with, I would hate being called a monster by some mere primate or any other species.Lion that's brilliant. Not only is it good for a giggle - it's also absolutely true. As if you can't tell me that secular states don't rape and pillage their people; Americans have quite literally cannibalized themselves (they started by enslaving blacks, then they spent their descendant's future money, then their banks gave liar's loans and caused the 2008 GFC, then all the most corrupt got bailed out by the US Government, they torture their POW's in Guantanamo Bay in direct contradiction the UN treaty against torture which is as scandalous, immoral and unethical as breaching the Geneva convention, etc) - and that's just the USA one of the countries we believe to be more "moderate" more "peaceful".
I would tell them to step off.
And I would ask them by what sanctimonious right do they dare presume to moralise @me
And I would tell them that blind evolution had favored me with bigger fists and sharper teeth and more testosterone and to mind their own business or else they are gonna be next!
The truth hurts, and their defence that morality comes from our species and not out God is counterintuitive anyway, not to mention an arbitrary, abstract construct which applies unevenly and appeals to personal opinion on matters of right and wrong over the wisdom/guidance of an authoritative source on the matter.