(January 1, 2013 at 8:29 pm)Tiberius Wrote:(December 31, 2012 at 5:22 pm)Chuck Wrote: Some residual gun crime rate will go up and down when there are supposed to be no guns. But the fact that it's "up" is way, way, way lower than American "down - That's how it's "pretty well".The point is, banning guns in the UK didn't do what it was supposed to. Gun crime suddenly jumped by 40% in 2 years. The ban came about because of a school shooting, which as you'll be aware, is a very rare form of gun crime. There was no need to ban guns in order to reduce the rate of school shootings, especially when it was already so low.
All we did was leave innocent people defenseless. America should learn from all these examples. There is no doubt that gun crime is a problem in your country, but banning guns is simply not the answer. Better education and training is, as well as doing proper background checks on people.
Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1440764.stm
This is of crimes where a gun was reported as being involved, it will include reports where the police were armed, and false reports from a time when guns were high on the agenda which would itself colour the statistics.
Is there any rational to your position at all, you want background checks, but you do not believe in the background checks done by social security, How would you set up a system that is more accurate?
Is your position motivated by anything more than I want one? If you want a gun and have a use for it why do you not apply to get a gun licence? Why have you not even bothered to find out yet how to use one?
Have you not seen that this issue is blowing away your own political agenda. If gun owners cannot give up their position even though it is detrimental to the general good, what chance is there for a libertarian viewpoint?
