Burden of Proof

[Mark 13:13]

I thought of posting this in the Philosophy section but since it seems to be quite an important part of many discussions in this section I put it here, I hope no one objects.

As a request from the end of this paragraph on which should not be an issue for most of this thread the word God or gods or anything else that even aludes to these concepts is BANNED from this thread. Please don't join the thread if you can't manage this.

An axiom is a premise or starting point of reasoning. As classically conceived, an axiom is a premise so evident as to be accepted as true without controversy.

From this defination " The burden of proof belongs to the person making a claim" is not an axiom and therefore needs to be proved as it is not accepted as true without controversy.

If anyone is unhappy with this definition of an Axiom then we can discuss which definition of Axiom we will use to continue the discussion otherwise if we are ok with the axiom definition I have given then can you show that the statement " The burden of proof belongs to the person making a claim" is an axion remember try to keep the explain simple for us less well versed in the field. ( me )

But it is not an axiom. It is a thumb rule - something we have learned works through frequent application.

Many left handed people learned how to write with their right hand through frequent application in the past this does not mean they could not have learned to write with their left. And I would not have an issue with burden of proof if I did not believe it is not being too often used in situations it is not called for or needed in So I say that unless the burden of proof can be proven to lie on one side or another or we have an authority all sides can agree on to make the decision or we go totalitarian and have a dictator ( or facist party ) with the power to force their opinion then let us take the middle ground and say let no one have the burden of proof. And then enjoy the discussion.