(January 7, 2013 at 4:46 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Why do you keep insisting that I've refused to discuss something that's already been discussed? By all means though, continue. I'd feel cheated if you dropped it.
An axiom is a premise or starting point of reasoning. As classically conceived, an axiom is a premise so evident as to be accepted as true without controversy
this is the full definition I gave and as you can see the definition requires both sentences to be complete. It states and axiom is a premise and then clarifies what that premise is a premise so evident as to be accepted as true without controversy
So yes you continue to refuse to deal with the without controversy. your first post actually cut this piece out when you quoted wiki.