contradictions

[paulpablo]

So we ARE open minded about such stuff.

Whos we?

"the quran is the best richest language for god to use"
But when it comes to a verse that is by todays standards morally or scientifically incorrect
"ahhh right well arabic is very difficult to translate, that word means several different things in english so thats why so many people get it wrong"

God never said that the Quran was preached in arabic because arabic is perfect , this is a nationalist idea, unfair to other non-arab muslims.

This thread isnt about what god said, this thread is about what muslims say.

lol, the revelations didn't take place like that : )
Mohammad saw gabriel the first time, it's when he passed out.

After that, most writing state that the revelations visited him in the middle of conversations with other people, instantly.

That's why arabs believed that he was bewitched. Other doubted that he's insane.

Then again, god is not a dictator. Atheists should really study the names of god in Islam.

He has 99 names (adjectives), one of them is "al-azeez" or "the proud" , thus he doesn't force anybody to worship him by force.

Note that hell is a final place ; before that nobody is forced to worship him.

This includes the following :

1) If angles came with mohammad, most people would get afraid & believe out of brute fear. They were forced

2)I really have nothing more to say

so, people should be the ones who force themselves to believe, not an external force.

So you can prove it wasnt aliens or the devil that gave muhammed the message?

"islam tells us how to prevent OCD"
Is that while youre praying 5 times a day at specific times of the day in a specific direction and washing your hands and feet before and after?

Btw, the prayer is one of the most beautiful things you might ever do. Back in time, I had problems, including a bad temper.


It's nothing like an obsession or OCD .

Doing things a specific amount of time everyday, at certain times of the day, in a specific direction everyday is by definition like OCD, people with OCD often feel the need to do things specific amount of times like touching things a certain amount of times or looking in a certain direction an amount of times and also experience the need to wash a certain amount of times.
Ive tried prayer, it was as boring as having a one way conversation to somone in a coma who you have never met. The only difference being you can see somone in a coma and they still have some signs of life.

"islam is a religion of peace"
That depends who you ask

Nah, it is the religion of peace, Muslims became violent after the Crusades (our dear christian brothers used to storm muslim cities & butcher everybody there).

Nah, it is the religion of peace,

Muslims became violent

People who follow a peaceful religion dont become violent in my opinion, it depends on your definition of peaceful.

"Now let man but think From what he is created! He is created from A drop emitted—Proceedings from between the backbone (sulb) and the ribs (tara’ib). "

"its not talking about sperm its talking about seman"
"its not talking about seman its talking about where the baby is in a womans body"
"its talking about where the blood flows in a man to create the sperm"
"its talking about where the testes are formed in a baby during the early formation of a man"

The verse is very accurate at describing what? Where the prostate gland is? where the sperm is made? where the seman is? If you think man is made from seman then i have to disagree.
Also this isnt about how accurate the quran is this is about contradictions muslims say, muslims all agree the quran is accurate we have established that, but they all say its correct for different reasons.