(February 6, 2013 at 11:12 am)Drich Wrote:(February 6, 2013 at 1:15 am)Stimbo Wrote: Up to you mate. There's only so much mileage to be gained out of trying to push one's head through a brick wall. I will just make the observation that "basic common sense" is seldom basic, sadly not very common and often nonsense. How it applies to god claims I've no idea.
What if the goal is to simply get through the wall?
The common sense was employed to see past a 'logic' that would not allow for the presents of "proof" to encompass the being "proof" was required of. In otherwords somehow it is logical to say (to the point of riticule) That having God present or rather you being made aware of the presents of God is not considered 'proof.' Even if that is what you are looking for.
What kind of crazy it that? When I am looking for something I stop looking when I find it. Because I found what I was looking for. I don't keep looking because I need some sort of other 'proof' that what I found was what I was looking for.
It boils down to "if a hellucination feel pleasant in however low brow, self-indulgent way, then just pretend its real, don't find out, and damn the consequences". How utterly pathetic.