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Where is the threshold of Dagon?
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RE: Where is the threshold of Dagon?
(February 10, 2013 at 12:06 pm)Brakeman Wrote: Having read the commentary you provided, It seems as though the apologist is saying that god was desecrating their Idol to the god Dagon.
Yes by removing the Hands God demonstrated that their god was powerless, By removing the head it shows that the merman was without wisdom. God basically Neutered their fish.

Quote:The commentator makes several forays to connect unrelated scriptures, but it doesn't seem to change the basics that the Philistines captured the arc, they took it to their house of worship, and because god was not content to be worshiped alongside other gods, jealous jewish god broke up their Idol by knocking off it's head and hands, an act that unsurprisingly resembles what a religious zealot would do today to vandalize an opposing god idol.
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Quote:This story also underlines the capricious evil that is the jewish god. He allows heathen hands of the philistines to grub all over the arc but kills one of his own who touches it to try to save it from being smashed on the rocks due to a pothole in the road. (Uzzah).

God's reaction here is pretty pathetic. Pushing over a fish man statue is something we would expect of the woo fakers of the Paranormal séance spirit kind, you know, the bump the table kind of thing.
Your over looking a key element. God was there to do these things and nothing could stop Him. That was the message being communicated.

Quote: Why do you suppose god did it during the night, when no one was around to see it, to make sure it wasn't just a crazy jew in their midst?
These events happened over the course of two days, After the first event, don't you think the philistines put an at least their version of an intern or someone in charge of looking over their god for the very reason you mentioned?

Quote:Lastly, why was god so interested in that Idol when there were undoubtedly hundreds of thousands in existence at that time?
That Idol was the central figure in a temple built to worship that specific god, in their most powerful city. For them that idol was the physical embodyment of their god. to destroy that central idol meant all other 'lessor versions' of it were also without power.

Quote:Why didn't god destroy all the idols of the "false" gods everywhere? Why just one that is nearby his alter?
Again it is like cutting the head of a snake off. You 'kill/cut off the head the rest of the snake is powerless. The merman was the 'king' of the philistine gods.

Quote: Supposedly a god aware of the immense universe would be be able to think in larger scale than a infinitesimally small pinprick of an area on google earth. The commentator claims that god failed to sway them with his lame "miracle" desecration of their one stature, which of course can't be confirmed by archeology.
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Quote:God failed with his message here. It seems to be an undeniable failure. The intent in desecrating their fish god was to persuade the Philistines to see that their god was inferior and fake and that the jewish god was real. In this, jewish god had no success.
Says who? read the passage again. The philistines abandoned the 'threshold of dagon.' God was not looking to win converts (your confusing Christianity and Judaism again) The Jews were chosen, one had to be born a jew, one could not elect to be a jew.

God was looking to communicate that just because the philistines defeated Israel did not mean He was defeated. He deballed their badest god and then set a plague on the people. The message was clear, that is why they got rid of the ark.
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Where is the threshold of Dagon? - by Brakeman - February 9, 2013 at 8:55 pm
RE: Where is the threshold of Dagon? - by Justtristo - February 9, 2013 at 9:21 pm
RE: Where is the threshold of Dagon? - by Brakeman - February 9, 2013 at 9:34 pm
RE: Where is the threshold of Dagon? - by Minimalist - February 9, 2013 at 10:43 pm
RE: Where is the threshold of Dagon? - by Justtristo - February 10, 2013 at 12:54 am
RE: Where is the threshold of Dagon? - by Drich - February 10, 2013 at 12:54 am
RE: Where is the threshold of Dagon? - by Brakeman - February 10, 2013 at 1:11 am
RE: Where is the threshold of Dagon? - by Drich - February 10, 2013 at 2:28 am
RE: Where is the threshold of Dagon? - by Brakeman - February 10, 2013 at 12:06 pm
RE: Where is the threshold of Dagon? - by Drich - February 10, 2013 at 7:30 pm
RE: Where is the threshold of Dagon? - by Minimalist - February 10, 2013 at 1:28 am
RE: Where is the threshold of Dagon? - by Justtristo - February 10, 2013 at 4:10 am
RE: Where is the threshold of Dagon? - by Angrboda - February 10, 2013 at 2:12 am
RE: Where is the threshold of Dagon? - by Minimalist - February 10, 2013 at 1:03 pm
RE: Where is the threshold of Dagon? - by Confused Ape - February 10, 2013 at 1:35 pm
RE: Where is the threshold of Dagon? - by Minimalist - February 10, 2013 at 1:56 pm
RE: Where is the threshold of Dagon? - by Confused Ape - February 10, 2013 at 2:27 pm
RE: Where is the threshold of Dagon? - by Brakeman - February 10, 2013 at 2:49 pm
RE: Where is the threshold of Dagon? - by Minimalist - February 10, 2013 at 3:05 pm
RE: Where is the threshold of Dagon? - by Minimalist - February 10, 2013 at 8:32 pm



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