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If ignorance is bliss...
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RE: If ignorance is bliss...
(February 12, 2013 at 6:37 pm)John V Wrote: If someone went to AA, where it is based on God, and recovered, would you just be happy that they found something that worked, or would you tell them they should find an atheist 12 step group?


No, I would be happy with their success. Most of the 12 steppers I've met only use the term 'god' in an almost deist context. There are several in my family that are no more religious than I am.

I am very honest with them and tell them that their success in the 12 step program had nothing to do with their tacking on the belief of a deity. They should take the credit, because they were responsible for their own success.

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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If ignorance is bliss... - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - February 12, 2013 at 3:43 pm
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by festive1 - February 12, 2013 at 3:48 pm
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by John V - February 12, 2013 at 3:50 pm
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by festive1 - February 12, 2013 at 3:55 pm
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by John V - February 12, 2013 at 6:12 pm
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by Simon Moon - February 12, 2013 at 6:22 pm
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by John V - February 12, 2013 at 6:37 pm
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by festive1 - February 12, 2013 at 8:16 pm
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by rexbeccarox - February 12, 2013 at 8:27 pm
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by Simon Moon - February 12, 2013 at 8:18 pm
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by Nine - February 12, 2013 at 3:55 pm
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by Baalzebutt - February 12, 2013 at 4:03 pm
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by Zone - February 12, 2013 at 4:04 pm
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by Bara - February 12, 2013 at 4:15 pm
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by CleanShavenJesus - February 12, 2013 at 5:38 pm
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by Dee Dee Ramone - February 12, 2013 at 5:48 pm
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by Cyberman - February 12, 2013 at 5:55 pm
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by CleanShavenJesus - February 13, 2013 at 5:36 pm
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by Zone - February 13, 2013 at 8:24 pm
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by Cyberman - February 13, 2013 at 8:34 pm
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by Creed of Heresy - February 12, 2013 at 11:02 pm
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by Aegrus - February 13, 2013 at 2:05 am
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by naimless - February 12, 2013 at 6:26 pm
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by fr0d0 - February 12, 2013 at 6:29 pm
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by Ryantology - February 12, 2013 at 8:35 pm
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by Aegrus - February 12, 2013 at 8:40 pm
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by BeefiestName - February 12, 2013 at 8:46 pm
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by Ryantology - February 12, 2013 at 11:47 pm
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by Creed of Heresy - February 12, 2013 at 11:57 pm
Re: RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by fr0d0 - February 13, 2013 at 2:11 am
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by Aegrus - February 13, 2013 at 2:18 am
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by Ryantology - February 13, 2013 at 2:36 am
Re: RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by fr0d0 - February 13, 2013 at 2:42 am
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by Cato - February 13, 2013 at 3:22 am
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by Ryantology - February 13, 2013 at 3:39 am
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by Zone - February 13, 2013 at 10:13 am
Re: RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by fr0d0 - February 13, 2013 at 8:07 pm
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by Ryantology - February 14, 2013 at 12:16 am
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by Zone - February 15, 2013 at 12:21 pm
RE: If ignorance is bliss... - by PyroManiac - February 21, 2013 at 11:34 am

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