(February 12, 2013 at 8:16 pm)festive1 Wrote:(February 12, 2013 at 6:37 pm)John V Wrote: If someone went to AA, where it is based on God, and recovered, would you just be happy that they found something that worked, or would you tell them they should find an atheist 12 step group?
If they're leaning on god as a crutch, the one thing stopping them from drinking, then I, for one, would like nothing better than to kick that crutch out from under them. We are all born good without god, we're just told what to believe from our parents' own superstitions. My dad stopped drinking because of AA. Was that a good thing? Perhaps... But my dad hasn't progressed beyond being a dry drunk for 25 years. He still lies, still manipulates, still maims those around him.... That's not living, that's existing, life has so much more to offer.
Sounds like my dad, although it wasn't AA, it was just becoming extremely religious and spending his life between church and the stock market ticker. He was an asshole until the day he died. But, hey, he left his church quite the tidy sum of money; more than what he left my sister or me, I might add. So, yeah, my dad stopped drinking largely because of religion. Nothing else about him got better. In fact, he just got meaner.
