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Xenophobia?
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RE: Xenophobia?
(February 23, 2013 at 9:18 pm)Tiberius Wrote: http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/comm...131444.ece
34,000 per year in a 3 bedroom house for a single WORKING (which disqualifies her automatically as a "welfare queen") mom with 10 children is not unreasonable in fact just the opposite she is the one being taken avantage of

Quote:Cutting welfare may well reduce that percentage, given that it would limit the requirements needed for people to legitimately claim welfare.

Besides, did you not read the line after I posted the stat: "That figure does not cover people claiming on the NHS." 2.1% might be a small number, but the NHS may well be abused far more than that.
nominally it's possible, but it's aso possible that a lack of welfare funding would result in less manpower to detect fraud, blind cuts as you would have them do is more likely to increase that percentage
............a universal healthcare system reduces costs, these people would still seek treatment for emergency care and would simply not pay their bill by giving a fake identification, those costs would be passed on to you either through insurance or through an increased hospital bill


Quote:Can you give any evidence for the "probably overhyped" claim? Or the 3 seconds of dialogue claim? No. These people are being interviewed in newspapers; they actively brag about how much they are getting. That is the only reason this issue is being talked about over here.
this is what a welfare queen is since you seem to think it means anything based on your high and mighty judgement that would be considered too much welfare is automotically a welfare queen

Conservative politicians have a talent for telling memorable anecdotes that capture the essence of their beliefs on any particular issue. One of the most enduring of these came from Ronald Reagan on the subject of welfare. He cited a Chicago "Welfare Queen" who had ripped off $150,000 from the government, using 80 aliases, 30 addresses, a dozen social security cards, and four fictional dead husbands. The country was outraged; Reagan dutifully promised to roll back welfare; and ever since, the "Welfare Queen" driving her "Welfare Cadillac" has become permanently lodged in American political folklore.

Unfortunately, like most great conservative anecdotes, it wasn't really true. The media searched for this welfare cheat in the hopes of interviewing her, and discovered that she didn't even exist.



http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-welfarequeen.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welfare_queen

As we know reagan used this to cut benefits to the poor specifically in the inner cities targeting minorities in otherwords xenophobia/racism


Quote:Cutting welfare for those who do not need it is not an attempt at disenfranchising the poor. It is in fact, completely the opposite. Less money for welfare cheats means more money for people who actually require it.
the same system your proposing should be cut.......... is the system that monitors fraud, and who exactly is the person who decides "who does not need it"....... you?


Quote:No, they are victims of a system which is acting against their interests.

so are the immigrants and people on welfare, many people are still alive fromthe days of racial segregation, the KKK still infiltrates police stations to abuse local minorities, your country currently occupies scotland wales and northern ireland, these people are victims, the englishman with a good paying job and every oppotunity in the world with a tax bill he "doesn't enjoy" is not a victim
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Messages In This Thread
Xenophobia? - by Something completely different - February 21, 2013 at 11:36 am
RE: Xenophobia? - by Tiberius - February 21, 2013 at 11:53 am
RE: Xenophobia? - by PyroManiac - February 21, 2013 at 11:54 am
RE: Xenophobia? - by Something completely different - February 21, 2013 at 12:10 pm
RE: Xenophobia? - by The Grand Nudger - February 21, 2013 at 12:15 pm
RE: Xenophobia? - by Tiberius - February 21, 2013 at 1:26 pm
RE: Xenophobia? - by Vera - February 21, 2013 at 12:16 pm
RE: Xenophobia? - by The Grand Nudger - February 21, 2013 at 12:19 pm
RE: Xenophobia? - by Something completely different - February 21, 2013 at 12:19 pm
RE: Xenophobia? - by Vera - February 21, 2013 at 12:44 pm
RE: Xenophobia? - by Something completely different - February 21, 2013 at 12:49 pm
RE: Xenophobia? - by Vera - February 21, 2013 at 1:01 pm
RE: Xenophobia? - by Something completely different - February 21, 2013 at 1:09 pm
RE: Xenophobia? - by Vera - February 21, 2013 at 1:12 pm
RE: Xenophobia? - by Something completely different - February 21, 2013 at 1:14 pm
RE: Xenophobia? - by The Grand Nudger - February 21, 2013 at 1:30 pm
RE: Xenophobia? - by Tiberius - February 21, 2013 at 3:43 pm
RE: Xenophobia? - by cratehorus - February 21, 2013 at 8:37 pm
RE: Xenophobia? - by Tiberius - February 22, 2013 at 11:06 am
RE: Xenophobia? - by Vera - February 22, 2013 at 11:16 am
RE: Xenophobia? - by cratehorus - February 22, 2013 at 8:28 pm
RE: Xenophobia? - by Vera - February 22, 2013 at 9:09 am
RE: Xenophobia? - by Angrboda - February 22, 2013 at 10:30 am
RE: Xenophobia? - by The Grand Nudger - February 22, 2013 at 11:05 am
RE: Xenophobia? - by Tiberius - February 22, 2013 at 11:26 am
RE: Xenophobia? - by Vera - February 22, 2013 at 11:49 am
RE: Xenophobia? - by The Grand Nudger - February 22, 2013 at 11:34 am
RE: Xenophobia? - by Tiberius - February 22, 2013 at 11:54 am
RE: Xenophobia? - by Vera - February 22, 2013 at 12:00 pm
RE: Xenophobia? - by frankiej - February 22, 2013 at 2:39 pm
RE: Xenophobia? - by Vera - February 22, 2013 at 2:46 pm
RE: Xenophobia? - by Angrboda - February 22, 2013 at 12:01 pm
RE: Xenophobia? - by The Grand Nudger - February 22, 2013 at 12:05 pm
RE: Xenophobia? - by LastPoet - February 22, 2013 at 12:55 pm
RE: Xenophobia? - by Tiberius - February 23, 2013 at 9:18 pm
RE: Xenophobia? - by cratehorus - February 24, 2013 at 8:30 pm
RE: Xenophobia? - by The Grand Nudger - February 23, 2013 at 10:52 pm
RE: Xenophobia? - by Tiberius - February 24, 2013 at 7:56 am
RE: Xenophobia? - by The Grand Nudger - February 25, 2013 at 12:37 am

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