Should violent criminals be castrated?

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Oh, my. Now you're resorting to the accusation of "ad hominem" argument?
The Fallacy of "Personal Attack"
It's interesting that you repeatedly throw the victim card while being the aggressor. If you're fond of citing the 'ad hominem' charge perhaps you'll cease and desist in exampling that tactic yourself.

There's nothing you can say that revokes your defending in any capacity convicted sex offenders while claiming they are not bad people and that they simply made a bad choice.

What you clearly miss, either by intention or out of ignorance opposed to correction or education, is one key word. "CHOICE!"

The convicted sex offenders you know are so because they made a choice!
The subsequent excuse alluding to 'drunk', etc... is untenable. As a jury of those sex offenders, the plural as in many sex offenders that you know, duly noted.

And for the record, people who have sex when they're drunk are not sex offenders!
Your attempt to make that blanket charge tantamount to imply everyone is subject to the label sex offender if they've been drinking and engage in sex, is egregious.
There's such a thing as,
That fact makes your blanket indictment untenable.

I don't know any sex offenders. I would not continue to remain associated with someone I did know, once they were convicted as a sex offender.
I do not associate with convicts or sex offenders.
They are not good people, despite the fact they offend people using sex as a weapon.

And I certainly don't make arguments for why they should be considered "OK" despite their criminal conviction. Morals and personal standards are never something one has to apologize for.
And that's it.

I have excused no behavior. I was very clear in stating that they should be punished for their actions. You can try to put all kinds of words in my mouth but the fact remains that, in spite of the bad things they have done, they are not necessarily bad people.


Now, lets clarify sexual assault. Consensual sex occurs when both parties are of a state of mind to give informed consent to a sexual act. Alcohol impairs ones cognitive ability, thereby diminishing their capacity to give proper consent. Therefore, if you have sex with someone who is drunk, they are not able to give consent and you are sexually assaulting them. (and just to be clear, this is YOUR fault, not theirs). This is not shit I just made up for my convenience. This is the definition of sexual assault.

Implying they are to blame in scenarios of drunken sex??? Where did I say ANYTHING that says the drunk person was to blame for anything?? You are a spin doctor of EPIC proportions.

As for the victims, I feel greatly for them. They did not deserve what happened to them in any way and I would never suggest otherwise. However, the families of drug addicts, the women who are beaten by their husbands, the kid whose mother was killed by a drunk driver... they are victims as well but you don't seem to be terribly concerned about them. You are not advocating death penalties for these offenders. No, you have a special little slot carved out for crimes you find particularly distasteful based on complete ignorance and media hype.

If you honestly believe there are good people and bad people, your delusions go far deeper than mere susceptibility to media sensationalism. There are few people on the planet that could stand up to any scrutiny if they were being classified as good or bad and their lives were being looked at with a microscope.

The truth is, there ARE two kinds of people: Those who have been caught and those who haven't. People do bad things. Even good people do bad things. Like it or not, that is how the world operates.

Lets take a quick look at one scenario. You tell me what you think of it.

A man goes to a bar with some friends after a long week of hard work. He drinks to excess and gets rather drunk. A cute young waitress passes by his table and he reaches out and slaps her on the butt. The next day, he is arrested for sexual assault. He is convicted and is put on the sex offender registry.

Gosh, what a horrible person he is!!!! WE MUST KILL HIM NOW!!!

BTW, this is a real situation. I knew the guy.

Oh, and thanks for the sneaky little ad hominem arguments. Please keep to the topic at hand and refrain from personal attacks.

And for the third time, you spin and put words in my mouth. What this comes down to is that, in spite of your misguided, vitriolic rant, goodele do bad things and that does not make them bad people.

Arguing this point with you is absolutely pointless. So, you win. Congratulations. I am a complete scumbag for believing that people can be good in spite of the bad things they sometimes do.