(February 28, 2013 at 3:17 pm)cratehorus Wrote: communism is not utopian socialism it is scientific socialism, this was the main difference between, marx, and many other of the left wing ideologues of his day
I didn't mean utopian as in like the social utopias like those of Robert Owen, the Shakers, or Charles Fourier, I used utopian there to mean an ultimate form of a society towards which Marx believed the society of his day would graduate towards, which is what he essentially prophesied in the Communist Manifesto with the proletariat taking control of the means of production and eventually destroying all distinctions of social rank.
If you believe it, question it. If you question it, get an answer. If you have an answer, does that answer satisfy reality? Does it satisfy you? Probably not. For no one else will agree with you, not really.