RE: Does Quran teach peace or war?
March 4, 2013 at 12:19 am
(This post was last modified: March 4, 2013 at 12:20 am by Mystic.)
Some Muslims do teach that. No doubt. Are they the majority? No.
Can I judge Atheists by a minority of Atheists? How would you like that?
It's not fair.
Anyways, the goal posts are being moved.
Quran teaches a spirit of keeping peace and to resort to war only as a last resort. This is what the opening post was meant to prove.
Even if majority of Muslims believed it taught otherwise, it would not be due to the Quran being unclear regarding the issue, but being mislead by leaders who inherited from violent rulers in history.
But majority of Muslims believe it teaches peace.
Then the goal posts are moved further, in that, they should do something against those misrepresenting Islam with teachings of war and violence.
Then they are shown they do.
Then it's stated if Islam was a religion of peace, then why do they have to protest and work against those teaching violence....
It's stated why, then, lastly, it's emphasized some Muslims do believe it teaches to kill all disbelievers.
The most followed tafsir of Quran with Sunnis (majority sect) is that of Ibn Katheer, and he explains the verses in the same way as I do. That they are situation and the peace verses are not abrogated in an absolute sense, but were only abrogated in the situation (due to the fact the disbelievers had no intention of keeping peace).
Anyways, it seems people rather have misconceptions of Quran, Islam, Muslims, their scholars, etc, then find the truth.
Lastly you mentioned the "beat" verse, and yes that can be interpreted differently, it can be translated as "separate from" or "keep a distance from".
While I was Muslim, I didn't believing in beating your wife or killing infidels.
Can I judge Atheists by a minority of Atheists? How would you like that?
It's not fair.
Anyways, the goal posts are being moved.
Quran teaches a spirit of keeping peace and to resort to war only as a last resort. This is what the opening post was meant to prove.
Even if majority of Muslims believed it taught otherwise, it would not be due to the Quran being unclear regarding the issue, but being mislead by leaders who inherited from violent rulers in history.
But majority of Muslims believe it teaches peace.
Then the goal posts are moved further, in that, they should do something against those misrepresenting Islam with teachings of war and violence.
Then they are shown they do.
Then it's stated if Islam was a religion of peace, then why do they have to protest and work against those teaching violence....
It's stated why, then, lastly, it's emphasized some Muslims do believe it teaches to kill all disbelievers.
The most followed tafsir of Quran with Sunnis (majority sect) is that of Ibn Katheer, and he explains the verses in the same way as I do. That they are situation and the peace verses are not abrogated in an absolute sense, but were only abrogated in the situation (due to the fact the disbelievers had no intention of keeping peace).
Anyways, it seems people rather have misconceptions of Quran, Islam, Muslims, their scholars, etc, then find the truth.
Lastly you mentioned the "beat" verse, and yes that can be interpreted differently, it can be translated as "separate from" or "keep a distance from".
While I was Muslim, I didn't believing in beating your wife or killing infidels.