Pascal's Wager (the new version)

[Creed of Heresy]

Also, your religion is not infallible either; you have two separate groups, the sunni and the shiite who each take different views over the worship of your religion.

it is not only 2 groups there are much more
How people interpret books is subject to mistakes, God will judge them according to their deeds and effort.

Prove that last statement, please. But you also proved that the Quran is not perfect, in that it is easily misinterpreted. You can say it is the fault of people, but take this instance: You have a man, a leader. He has three followers. He tells each of the followers the following: "Go forth, and gather that which is red and a fruit, and bring it to me." One goes and gets an apple. Another goes and gets a raspberry. And the third goes and gets a rose, and a peach. Who followed the orders correctly? All of them, actually. But then the leader tells the second and third man, "No, you are wrong, you did not obey me properly." He then shoots the hapless men. You are a bystander. You witness this. Do you say "the men deserved it because they interpreted his orders wrong?" Or do you say "That guy is a sadistic prick and it was HIS fault for not making his orders clear"?

If you choose option 1: you are a fucking moron. I am not going to explain why, because it would be a colossal waste of my precious, finite time trying to explain simple logic to someone so dead in the brain. If you choose option 2, then you suddenly understand why I find your statement about "interpretation" to be utter bullshit in this context.

Since I know you will choose option 1 or try some finagling to try to weasel out of it using some non-sequiturs or not-logic, I'm not going to really hold my breath here, but eh, maybe you'll actually consider my point of view here.

Not very likely, though, so I forgive you for your close-mindedness in advance if that happens to be the case.

Either the Quran ALSO was modified by human hands, and ergo untrustworthy, or it is flawed from its source thus utterly destroying the idea of allah being perfect.

You gave only 2 options, for no reason or evidence
the 3rd option is to be true from God[/quote]

Eeexcept I just showed you it cannot be. Please, if you're going to enter into intellectual discourse, have the common courtesy of being able to open your mind, even if it's just a razor-thin crack of an opening, would you? This is kind of pathetic at this point.

[qupote]But as we have the original copy (we have about 5 copies not only one) from Quran (written about 20 years after the prophet) then option 1 is wrong

so either Quran is true from God or flawed by Mohamed, but anyway it is genuine
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You basically just told me "the quran is true because the quran says so."

Translated to me, that came out as: "I just believe it unquestioningly. In other words, I am a gullible sucker."

Poor bastard. I hope you never get caught in a situation where you're trying to buy a used car...