(March 10, 2013 at 2:41 pm)jstrodel Wrote: Why understand ethics in a way that emphasizes intentions and gives people the benefit of the doubt? Is what I am saying really tin foil level crazy?Ranting about rock being a tool to advance the 'atheist agenda' is pretty crazy. Most of the people I have met that are christians were into rock. One who made a big habbit of telling me I will go to hell was really into it.
(March 10, 2013 at 2:41 pm)jstrodel Wrote: Two little kids get arrested for stealing spray paint. They walk down the hall and the police starts integorrating them. One cop starts playing good cop, the other cop starts playing cop. The kids confess everything.
When the kids get out, one kid looks at the other kid and goes "man, did you see those police officers? You see how I was able to manipulate that one? What an idiot! I got him to like me"
That is what you are doing now.
What the hell are you talking about?
(March 10, 2013 at 2:41 pm)jstrodel Wrote: Understanding ethics as a purely intentional, non consequentialist field and seeing people involved in a culture war as having pure motives is what you would call tin foil hat.The 'culture war' you seems to think is happening isn't atheist vs theist. Young people always have a culture the older generation thinks is messed up. I see just as many theists as atheists go out to drink, take some drugs and fuck.
(March 10, 2013 at 2:41 pm)jstrodel Wrote: The people the fight the culture war realize their strength is in the bars, in the rock clubs, in the liquor stores, in the bedroom. Why do you think the Democrats let Hollywood endorse their candidates and don't rebuke them? They don't care about the sex and the drugs and it helps them.You are very melodramatic. I don't give a damn about democrats I live in the UK.
(March 10, 2013 at 2:41 pm)jstrodel Wrote: The same is true for the atheist movement. They don't care and it helps them.But it isn't any of your business if people want to get drunk/high and have sex while dancing to rock music. Nor is it mine or anyone else. Its up to them what they want to do. All anyone can do is give advice.
(March 10, 2013 at 2:41 pm)jstrodel Wrote: So my response to that is: "Atheists use drugs, sex, rock and roll, and adolescent rebellion to fuel their movement". This is not tin foil hat, this is true.
It is pretty tin foil hat crazy. Its nonsense. Theists are doing the same thing. Like I said before its not a theist vs atheist issue. Its just popular youth culture. Its not to fuel the movement most people my age I have met just aren't fussed at all about religion. That's not rebellion its indifference.
