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hipster Atheist
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RE: hipster Atheist
(March 11, 2013 at 12:49 am)jstrodel Wrote: What religious people tolerate sex and drugs? Do you care that you are a liar?
Religious and spiritual use of cannabis
(March 11, 2013 at 12:49 am)jstrodel Wrote: You would say that tolerance is advocacy in another context.
Prove the statement tolerance is not the same as advocacy.
dictionary.com Wrote:tol·er·ance
[tol-er-uhns]
1. a fair, objective, and permissive attitude toward those whose opinions, practices, race, religion, nationality, etc., differ from one's own; freedom from bigotry.

2. a fair, objective, and permissive attitude toward opinions and practices that differ from one's own.

3. interest in and concern for ideas, opinions, practices, etc., foreign to one's own; a liberal, undogmatic viewpoint.
ad·vo·ca·cy
[ad-vuh-kuh-see]
the act of pleading for, supporting, or recommending; active espousal
Simply not condemning something is not the same as encouraging it.

(March 11, 2013 at 12:49 am)jstrodel Wrote: If I am wrong, very little happens. THere is no risk of pregnancy, very young people are not enticed through the swirls and sounds of rock and roll and the drug and sex culture, nothing happens. People have to deny themselves a lot.
Are we talking about five year olds here, or about adults? You say "very young people" so are you claiming that atheists are okay with "very young" people doing drugs and having sex? (And by doing drugs, I don't mean hard drugs)

(March 11, 2013 at 12:49 am)jstrodel Wrote: If you are wrong, a lot of peoples lives are destroyed.
Only if they are irresponsible. People have known that drunk driving is bad for years. People still do it. You can't drink and drive responsibly. You can have sex, perhaps use some light drugs (?), and listen to music in ways that won't hurt you. If you are irresponsible, you're going to mess yourself up no matter what others tell you. I understand you've had some bad experiences, but whoever you were friends with was obviously irresponsible, and to blame atheism...well there's no reason to do that. You continuously state that atheism is at fault and promotes hard drug use, unsafe sex, and...somehow dangerous music, but you haven't supported it.
(March 11, 2013 at 12:49 am)jstrodel Wrote: And actually, let me tell you something, you are wrong.
Evidence?
(March 11, 2013 at 12:49 am)jstrodel Wrote: I know a whole lot of peoples whose lives are destroyed.
By atheists telling them to use hard drugs? And this is common, or just happened to you?
(March 11, 2013 at 12:49 am)jstrodel Wrote: You are so dishonest you are trying to argue that religious people tolerate drugs and sexual immorality just as much as atheists do.
The wiki link at the top of this post showed examples of religions supporting drug use, and however you define "sexual immorality" is subjective. Religion by definition can't tolerate sexual immorality because religion is what decides what is considered sexually immoral in the first place.
(March 11, 2013 at 12:49 am)jstrodel Wrote: You are probably going to cite something about Catholic sex abuse or the crusades or something totally unrelated.
Now you're just giving me ideas...although the crusades are entirely irrelevant to this discussion.

(March 11, 2013 at 12:49 am)jstrodel Wrote: I don't think I am really going to get anywhere with someone who is so desperate to be right that he is going to argue that religious people tolerate drugs and sex and rock and roll and that there is an equal risk associate with abstinence than there is with a rock star lifestyle.
Rock star lifestyle? Who is living a rock star lifestyle? Do you really think atheists are living like that...or is that the result of the bad company you placed yourself in years ago?

(March 11, 2013 at 12:49 am)jstrodel Wrote: Why can't you just acknowledge that atheism is to a large degree the product of a youth culture centered around drugs and sex?
Because it isn't. One would think Satanism would be much more rebellious anyway... And why would this culture you claim exists lose belief in god rather than simply act rebelliously to spite him?

(March 11, 2013 at 12:49 am)jstrodel Wrote: It is because you are dishonest, and you don't care about the truth, and you want to argue, that is why.

Projection much?
John Adams Wrote:The Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.
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hipster Atheist - by Drich - March 9, 2013 at 3:09 am
RE: hipster Atheist - by jstrodel - March 9, 2013 at 3:23 am
RE: hipster Atheist - by Gilgamesh - March 9, 2013 at 3:29 am
RE: hipster Atheist - by jstrodel - March 9, 2013 at 3:37 am
RE: hipster Atheist - by Gilgamesh - March 9, 2013 at 3:41 am
RE: hipster Atheist - by jstrodel - March 9, 2013 at 12:53 pm
RE: hipster Atheist - by CleanShavenJesus - March 10, 2013 at 2:37 pm
RE: hipster Atheist - by jstrodel - March 9, 2013 at 3:46 am
RE: hipster Atheist - by Gilgamesh - March 9, 2013 at 3:49 am
RE: hipster Atheist - by jstrodel - March 9, 2013 at 3:51 am
RE: hipster Atheist - by Gilgamesh - March 9, 2013 at 3:54 am
RE: hipster Atheist - by JDS - March 13, 2013 at 11:07 pm
RE: hipster Atheist - by Esquilax - March 9, 2013 at 4:06 am
RE: hipster Atheist - by Drich - March 9, 2013 at 11:09 am
RE: hipster Atheist - by Esquilax - March 9, 2013 at 12:25 pm
RE: hipster Atheist - by Gilgamesh - March 9, 2013 at 4:08 am
RE: hipster Atheist - by Kayenneh - March 9, 2013 at 4:17 am
RE: hipster Atheist - by Nine - March 9, 2013 at 8:16 am
RE: hipster Atheist - by paulpablo - March 9, 2013 at 10:04 am
RE: hipster Atheist - by Kayenneh - March 9, 2013 at 11:25 am
RE: hipster Atheist - by Psykhronic - March 9, 2013 at 12:57 pm
RE: hipster Atheist - by jstrodel - March 9, 2013 at 12:59 pm
RE: hipster Atheist - by Psykhronic - March 9, 2013 at 1:10 pm
RE: hipster Atheist - by jstrodel - March 9, 2013 at 1:16 pm
RE: hipster Atheist - by Psykhronic - March 9, 2013 at 1:20 pm
RE: hipster Atheist - by jstrodel - March 9, 2013 at 1:47 pm
RE: hipster Atheist - by Zen Badger - March 10, 2013 at 7:52 am
RE: hipster Atheist - by jstrodel - March 9, 2013 at 1:49 pm
RE: hipster Atheist - by Esquilax - March 9, 2013 at 4:30 pm
RE: hipster Atheist - by Something completely different - March 9, 2013 at 1:47 pm
RE: hipster Atheist - by Psykhronic - March 9, 2013 at 1:54 pm
RE: hipster Atheist - by jstrodel - March 9, 2013 at 4:53 pm
RE: hipster Atheist - by Esquilax - March 10, 2013 at 9:36 am
RE: hipster Atheist - by jstrodel - March 10, 2013 at 2:09 pm
RE: hipster Atheist - by Nine - March 10, 2013 at 2:34 pm
RE: hipster Atheist - by jstrodel - March 10, 2013 at 2:41 pm
RE: hipster Atheist - by Nine - March 10, 2013 at 3:02 pm
RE: hipster Atheist - by Psykhronic - March 10, 2013 at 2:10 pm
RE: hipster Atheist - by jstrodel - March 10, 2013 at 2:15 pm
RE: hipster Atheist - by Nine - March 10, 2013 at 2:40 pm
RE: hipster Atheist - by Esquilax - March 10, 2013 at 11:45 pm
RE: hipster Atheist - by jstrodel - March 10, 2013 at 3:09 pm
RE: hipster Atheist - by Nine - March 10, 2013 at 3:20 pm
RE: hipster Atheist - by jstrodel - March 10, 2013 at 3:30 pm
RE: hipster Atheist - by Nine - March 10, 2013 at 3:34 pm
RE: hipster Atheist - by jstrodel - March 10, 2013 at 11:52 pm
RE: hipster Atheist - by Esquilax - March 11, 2013 at 12:05 am
RE: hipster Atheist - by jstrodel - March 11, 2013 at 12:19 am
RE: hipster Atheist - by Esquilax - March 11, 2013 at 12:40 am
RE: hipster Atheist - by Psykhronic - March 11, 2013 at 12:21 am
RE: hipster Atheist - by jstrodel - March 11, 2013 at 12:22 am
RE: hipster Atheist - by Psykhronic - March 11, 2013 at 12:24 am
RE: hipster Atheist - by jstrodel - March 11, 2013 at 12:49 am
RE: hipster Atheist - by Darkstar - March 13, 2013 at 11:50 pm
RE: hipster Atheist - by jstrodel - March 14, 2013 at 12:37 am
RE: hipster Atheist - by Esquilax - March 14, 2013 at 3:15 am
RE: hipster Atheist - by Something completely different - March 11, 2013 at 12:54 am
RE: hipster Atheist - by jstrodel - March 12, 2013 at 12:03 am
RE: hipster Atheist - by Esquilax - March 11, 2013 at 12:56 am
RE: hipster Atheist - by Nerd - March 14, 2013 at 12:27 am
RE: hipster Atheist - by jstrodel - March 14, 2013 at 10:00 pm
RE: hipster Atheist - by Esquilax - March 16, 2013 at 12:30 am
RE: hipster Atheist - by Lion IRC - March 14, 2013 at 10:39 pm
RE: hipster Atheist - by jstrodel - March 14, 2013 at 11:20 pm
RE: hipster Atheist - by Cato - March 15, 2013 at 12:03 am
RE: hipster Atheist - by Tartarus Sauce - March 15, 2013 at 12:27 am
RE: hipster Atheist - by CleanShavenJesus - March 16, 2013 at 12:55 pm
RE: hipster Atheist - by jstrodel - March 16, 2013 at 12:01 pm
RE: hipster Atheist - by Esquilax - March 16, 2013 at 12:45 pm
RE: hipster Atheist - by jstrodel - March 16, 2013 at 12:55 pm
RE: hipster Atheist - by Esquilax - March 16, 2013 at 1:11 pm

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