(March 18, 2013 at 3:46 pm)Muslim Scholar Wrote:(March 18, 2013 at 10:44 am)pocaracas Wrote: Others have bugged you with other details, I'll bug you with this detail.I did not miss it!
You're missing, at least, one term, there.
E = U + N + G
N = UNknown Universe (which, as far as we are aware, is much much more than the known universe).
As N is very large, G must be very, very small.
I wrote "Known universe" on purpose
Anything else is G (including the possibility that G may equal N1+N2+...+G)
G must be a single unit (Singularity)
because if more than one object exist, time (as I defined it) must exist as well
Another point, as G is unique there no meaning of asking is it big or small or even compare its size to anything, it doesn't have a size at all
It is something beyond all what we know, so we cannot even question things like what its size? is it male or female? what color? etc.
So, your G can be N1+N2+...+G', but then "G must be a single unit"? OR are you referring to this G'?
Even so...
(March 18, 2013 at 4:22 pm)Muslim Scholar Wrote: Part IIIHow do you know there has to be a creator/initiator?
Trying to figure some necessary/definitive attributes for G
1. G is the creator/initiator of the Universe
(March 18, 2013 at 4:22 pm)Muslim Scholar Wrote: 2. G is uniqueNot necessarily.... think, multiple-universes..... These can be in the N1+N2+...
(March 18, 2013 at 4:22 pm)Muslim Scholar Wrote: 3. G has actions (p)Why? Because it is the initiator of the Universe? Maybe G is an action, or maybe G is just quantum fluctuations...
(March 18, 2013 at 4:22 pm)Muslim Scholar Wrote: 4. G is outside time, G must be one unit as if there are more than one entity time can be related to each other, but as time did not exist, then G is one UN-separated self-dependent unitFirst you say that time stretches out to minus infinity, and then glue this G outside of this time. Did you define time as a property of the Universe? Or a property of space-time? Or is Space-time a property of the Universe? Or is the Universe in space-time?
(The Eternal, The one, The self sufficient)
(March 18, 2013 at 4:22 pm)Muslim Scholar Wrote: 5. G is outside and separate from the UniverseAh, from your equation, only outside the "known universe". Unless your talking about G', again...
(March 18, 2013 at 4:22 pm)Muslim Scholar Wrote: 6. G has a will; as if he didn’t then creating/starting the universe must be initiated from an external source which contradicts with the (proved) non-existence of time.Am I mentioned on this will? I do hope I got a fair share of G's wealth.
Now for some brain twisting: can there be a will, if there is no time? Can there be a consciousness apart from time?
As far as we are aware, consciousness, awareness of the environment, and other mental activities require a physical brain, where mental processes require time for neural information to transmit through the network and arrive at a fully formed thought.
How can you postulate the existence of an entity capable of forming thoughts while not having this brain mechanism? I'd say that takes a special kind of imagination, thus relegating the whole concept of G to fiction.
And, while fiction may in the future become reality, it most certainly is not.... and the likelihood of becoming reality if quite meager.