(March 19, 2013 at 5:26 am)enrico Wrote: When your son-daughter are very small you tend to guide them to adulthood but when they grow up you slowly let them take their own decisions.That has nothing to do with what I wrote. You asked for a scientific mechanism which would allow us to demonstrate 'god' (I assume you're talking about the Abrahamic god?). I gave you an example of one, one which has been used and has yet to be able to support any of the testable claims made for any theistic gods. Your claim that theistic gods can't be detected by 'physical science' is wrong.
The same thing happen between the creator and his creation so you will see that plant and animals are driven by instinct but the most evolved form of life like human life is not that is why the interaction between God and human is so different and people can not understand why God if ever exist does not put an end to suffering and all evil on earth.hock:
Quote:I am not talking about atheist who do not care or are happy as they are without a God. I am talking about atheist who say.........SCIENCE SAY THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST.It matters a great deal because the definitions of those gods are essential. Theists make a bunch of testable claims based on the attributes of their god(s). If, when tested, those claims fail to meet their burden of proof then it is appropriate to say that those attributes are flase; consequently, that god, as defined, can not exist. So far, all theistic gods have failed to meet their burden of proof consequently, it's fair to say that they do not exist.
It does not really matter if they mean a God that care or a God that does not care about his creation.
Deists on the other hand, have defined their gods as completely external to the human experience consequently, science can make no statement about them but neither can any other mechanism, including those claimed by deists. Consequently, it's fair to act as if they don't exist irrespective of their actual existence but not fair to say that they absolutely don't/can't exist. However this argument can not apply to theistic gods.
Quote:I am still waiting that some body come up with a demonstration that by using physical science it is possible to go outside his limitation and understand what lies outside his borders.Please see my first paragraph.
Quote:THAT IS WHY THE WORD ATHEIST SHOULD ONLY MEAN .........SOMEONE THAT IS NOT INTERESTED IN GOD NOT THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST.It doesn't matter what you think it should mean. What it means is 'an absence of belief in god(s)'. That definition makes no implication regarding one's level of interest in the subject. Some atheists don't care, some care a great deal. It seems that you're confusing 'antitheism' (the opposition to belief in god(s)) with 'atheism' (the absence...). That will always make it harder for you.
Sum ergo sum