Quote:Ben Davis.............. You asked for a scientific mechanism which would allow us to demonstrate 'god' (I assume you're talking about the Abrahamic god?). I gave you an example of one, one which has been used and has yet to be able to support any of the testable claims made for any theistic gods. Your claim that theistic gods can't be detected by 'physical science' is wrong.
Quote:a valid tool in the scientific method is to detect an object/force by its interactions with other objects/forces (e.g. planets cause 'wobble' in each others' orbits and the position of their star therefore we can use this to detect them). This seems to be the most suitable approach for detecting any theistic gods.
Your example which i reported in red is not evidence of anything that we are talking about.
Your example is limited to matter and therefore confined to the phenomena within this PHYSICAL UNIVERSE.
Again your problem is that you pretend to study something that is not material with material instruments.
I repeat.............RIGHT TOOL FOR THE RIGHT JOB.
Quote:Theists make a bunch of testable claims based on the attributes of their god(s). If, when tested, those claims fail to meet their burden of proof then it is appropriate to say that those attributes are flase; consequently, that god, as defined, can not exist. So far, all theistic gods have failed to meet their burden of proof consequently, it's fair to say that they do not exist.
There are a lot of gullible people out there. Some people feel safe in believing in something.
It really does not matter whether this thing is a God or the matter (atheism).
Just believe that God exist will not bring any real spiritual progress.
The theory want take anyone too far.
It is with spiritual practice that one is able to progress.
In other words i am not really interested in those who rely on theories alone.
Quote:Deists on the other hand, have defined their gods as completely external to the human experience consequently, science can make no statement about them but neither can any other mechanism, including those claimed by deists. Consequently, it's fair to act as if they don't exist irrespective of their actual existence but not fair to say that they absolutely don't/can't exist. However this argument can not apply to theistic gods.
Again, even deists rely on theories and nothing practical that help to progress spiritually.
Not interested in them either.
Quote:It doesn't matter what you think it should mean. What it means is 'an absence of belief in god(s)'. That definition makes no implication regarding one's level of interest in the subject. Some atheists don't care, some care a great deal. It seems that you're confusing 'antitheism' (the opposition to belief in god(s)) with 'atheism' (the absence...). That will always make it harder for you.
Uhh,..........only an absence of belief in god(s)!!!
You see when you put something in your mind is like putting down bricks to build a house.
Your mind will slowly build up the believe that that particular thing is real or not so when you tell yourself that there is nothing regarding God then your mind will deny the existence of that thing.
It is also true the opposite.
You remember my example how the dolphin acquire the sonar?
The creature put in his-Her head that there was a need for something that would solve his-her problem and that thing build up in his-her body-mind.
So we got to be carefully about what we feed our brains with.
