RE: Proving God Existence
March 30, 2013 at 1:00 pm
(This post was last modified: March 30, 2013 at 1:01 pm by pocaracas.)
(March 30, 2013 at 1:34 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote:Reject away.
I did not reject those theories!
I just rejected the concept of anything being infinite
Bring me any proof (even a weak one) for that?
Show me that it is so..... surely it should me much easier to prove that something is finite rather than infinite.
And if I am asking this, it's because whatever proof you've brought forth has not managed to sway me. Try again, try better.
(March 30, 2013 at 1:34 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote:And then you jump the gun and state that time had a beginning... How would you know that?Quote:your premise has no firm ground to hold itself. You propose it, and I refuse/reject the proposition. How does that leave you and your premise?
My proof is simple yet very powerful
It depends on one fact
The Universe is changing
Then Axioms about time, which is nothing but utilizing part of the definition of time (Sequence of events)
(March 30, 2013 at 1:34 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: Those are the only two premises which are not refutableToo bad I just don't accept one of them, heh?...
The rest is just set theory and proof by contradictions
(March 30, 2013 at 1:34 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: I challenge to find a single flaw in it.
Most of you are trying to use a illogical methods to refute the proof
You need to work only inside the realm of the proof not outside it.
(Any scientific theories about time, universe is irrelevant because science is not definite, logic is)
Another point is to recognize that the creator is unique, so don't try to understand details about him; except by using logic
(Mechanism, cause, shape, space, time, etc.) don't apply for him and cannot be used to refute or assert anything.
God gave you what is needed to prove himself, so don't pretend again that you are Atheists or even Agnostics, you are repudiates
refutation: time is infinite. Physicists have, in the past, arbitrarily set t=0 at the big bang, just because we have no way of knowing about anything that happened before it.... but it can go to minus infinity.
Now, why would I be limited to after the big bang? Why would time not exist before the big bang? Physics does not provide an answer to "was there space-time before the big bang?" so you should not propose it as an assumption.
Knock yourself with these guys: http://physics.stackexchange.com/questio...e-big-bang