The price of attonement???

[The Grand Nudger]

That's just it. God (at that time) did not have control of the world.

LOL, that would explain alot. Still doesn't by the way, but the point is moot.

If you remember after Creation He handed the reigns of this world over to Adam to be it's care taker. Then Adam handed the reigns over to satan when he ate of the forbidden fruit.

That's stretching it a bit, you wouldn't become the owner of my little farm just because I ate an apple you gave me. Again, it hardly matters but the urge to plow through and bicker over ancillary shit is becoming apparent - yet again.

Or rather Adam handed Humanity over to sin, and as Satan is the Father of all sin. Meaning Humanity (the rulers of this world) became the properity of Sin, and sin belongs to satan. (Satan manipulates man through his bondage to sin, making Satan the ruler of this world.) *Side note this world is the cloest thing to a satan run Hell/Satan run world (where the devil is in command) Real Hell is not satan's realm as in other religions. Hell is where Satan is punished forever. Hell was stoked and primed for him to be punished forever not us.

cool story bro.

Anyways, The offer Satan made to Christ was a way to reobtain dominion over this realm, this world without Having to die on the cross. God's way Had Christ beaten and scouraged, to pay for sin (And maybe it cost Him His Deity as well) Satan offered to simply give everything back without having to give anything up.

Satan could do that? He had that power and authority? Your godman didn;t see through this shit?

All He asked was that Jesus turn His back on God and worship Him. (Which if you think about it is kinda what God did to Jesus, In that He turned His back on Christ while He died on the cross.)

Separating god from jesus does help to turn jesus into the victim in the story, sure. Not sure why you want to do that though, as it makes the story - and your explicit approval of the actions descried therein- even more horrendous.

Tell me that is not a temptation. I am a goal oreanted person, and if the Goal is X and we have a very difficult plan to obtain X at Great or even catastrophic loss, and someone else offers a plan to ensure the accomplishment of X with little to no loss.. I would be in.

I Thank Christ it was Him there and not me. This world would look very different otherwise.

I can tell you that it's not temptation if you have the kind of perspective your fellow wolves claim (I appreciate that you believe otherwise). Scapegoaters rarely wish for themselves to be the ones chained to the post, unsurprising. Monstrously evil hypocrites. Ready an willing to torture another for their own inequity, thankful even that it has been done, and glad that they did not have to be the one holding the scourge - but entirely unwilling to subject themselves to the same. The very thought is anethema to the motivations behind vicarious redemption or torture by proxy in the first place.