(March 31, 2013 at 5:43 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote:Ah.... "your time"!!!(March 30, 2013 at 1:00 pm)pocaracas Wrote: And then you jump the gun and state that time had a beginning... How would you know that?I didn't jump, It is a very clear conclusion
I did not use the full/scientific definition of time
So it is MyTime which had a beginning
Mytime can be "Events" or "Relative events"
Any way, what I proved is that events had a start
not only that the first event must be only one event from one source
Don't confuse yourself with other definitions of time!
And here I was thinking we were talking about standard universal time...
Oh well, another looney trying to redefine things and coming up with his own version of the world.... -.-'
Have fun with "your time".
(March 31, 2013 at 5:43 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote:A hypothesis which renders your whole "god as first cause argument" useless. You can't demonstrate that time is finite (not "your time", but the actual spacetime continuum). It is impossible to demonstrate an infinite, but there is no theory (that I'm aware of) which ends up with a finite spacetime as a result.Quote:refutation: time is infinite.What is that? an assertion from an Atheist.
(March 31, 2013 at 5:43 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote:Your proof is erroneous and looks a lot like an assumption.Quote:Now, why would I be limited to after the big bang? Why would time not exist before the big bang? Physics does not provide an answer to "was there space-time before the big bang?" so you should not propose it as an assumption.Not an assumption, I proved that.
Try again.
Just in case you missed where the error was... after some 10 pages, someone is going to show it to you.
You defined Set1 as a finite set.
Then you claim that there are three possibilities for the number of members in that set: empty, finite or infinite.... since you defined the set as finite, it will have to have finite members... well duh!
But wait, what happened to set2, the infinite one? You claim that it is false that is not empty... because of something no one understands related to set1... what does set1 have to do with set2?
Now, here's a nice analogy to your random toothpick drop.
Imagine that you dropped some 10^10 toothpicks (this is like... 10 billion of those... there aren't enough trees to make that many). How likely is it that you'd find 3 in a straight line? Damned difficult to find, but not impossible.
Look at the Universe... it's huge, enormous, incomprehensibly large. Life, as we know it, may be out there, but we have no knowledge of it. We've probed far into our galaxy and looked into other galaxies.... life is nowhere to be found, or very difficult to find. Life exists in one tiny planet, circling one unremarkable star, lost in one arm of a standard spiral galaxy. So... life is very difficult to find in this galaxy... but it's not impossible, because we're here.