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Thatcher kicked the bucket.
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RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket.
(April 8, 2013 at 1:58 pm)The Germans are coming Wrote: So you ignore the negatives?
Is that what I said? I don't think that's what I said. Being ignorant of something doesn't mean you are "ignoring" it.


Quote:Obviously one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter.
Yes..."obviously". Sorry, but I don't condone the killing/targeting of innocent people, neither under the guise of terrorism or "freedom fighting".

You can fight for freedom without resorting to violence. Many activists in history have done this. Nelson Mandela wasn't one of them (though he became one).

Quote:Yet this doesnt change the fact that Thatcher sided for a disgusting racist regime and also denounced those who stood up against that regime.
So did a lot of people back then. We have the advantage of looking back at how things eventually ended up, and it's much easier to side with those that win. In my opinion, neither side (pro-apartheid and anti-apartheid) behaved particularly well. It's a shameful part of history for everyone involved.

Quote:Do you believe that the correct way of engaging in international politics is to rely on national sterotyps to draw conclusions and to believe in preconsisting historic elements within a nations culture which causes certain patterns of behavior within that sociaty to constantly reemerge.
We're British. Relying on national stereotypes is how all international politics is done. Big Grin

Seriously though, no, I don't believe it's the correct way of engaging in international politics. Do I think Thatcher was wrong to do it? Yes. Does that affect my overall opinion of her, and the great work she did do for this country? No. People aren't perfect.
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RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by pocaracas - April 8, 2013 at 11:39 am
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Minimalist - April 8, 2013 at 11:39 am
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Anomalocaris - April 8, 2013 at 11:56 am
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Mister Agenda - April 8, 2013 at 12:09 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by downbeatplumb - April 8, 2013 at 12:44 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Tiberius - April 8, 2013 at 1:19 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Tiberius - April 8, 2013 at 1:48 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Tiberius - April 8, 2013 at 2:11 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Anomalocaris - April 8, 2013 at 1:48 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by downbeatplumb - April 8, 2013 at 2:26 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Tiberius - April 8, 2013 at 2:45 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by A Theist - April 8, 2013 at 3:08 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Tiberius - April 8, 2013 at 6:13 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Tiberius - April 9, 2013 at 1:41 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Ben Davis - April 9, 2013 at 6:19 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by downbeatplumb - April 8, 2013 at 3:13 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by fr0d0 - April 8, 2013 at 4:04 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by DeistPaladin - April 8, 2013 at 4:41 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Minimalist - April 8, 2013 at 8:37 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Rev. Rye - April 8, 2013 at 11:17 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by fr0d0 - April 8, 2013 at 5:04 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by CapnAwesome - April 8, 2013 at 6:38 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Anomalocaris - April 8, 2013 at 6:44 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by CapnAwesome - April 8, 2013 at 6:54 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Tonus - April 8, 2013 at 6:57 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Darkstar - April 8, 2013 at 8:29 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Shell B - April 8, 2013 at 11:34 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Rev. Rye - April 8, 2013 at 8:35 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Polaris - April 8, 2013 at 11:12 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Minimalist - April 8, 2013 at 11:36 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Polaris - April 8, 2013 at 11:38 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Tonus - April 9, 2013 at 6:22 am
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Mister Agenda - April 9, 2013 at 9:54 am
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Minimalist - April 8, 2013 at 11:40 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Polaris - April 8, 2013 at 11:48 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Polaris - April 9, 2013 at 8:29 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Polaris - April 9, 2013 at 8:48 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by fr0d0 - April 9, 2013 at 2:03 am
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Autumnlicious - April 9, 2013 at 10:44 am
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by A Theist - April 9, 2013 at 12:24 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Minimalist - April 9, 2013 at 2:51 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by A Theist - April 10, 2013 at 7:32 am
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Autumnlicious - April 9, 2013 at 5:19 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Mister Agenda - April 9, 2013 at 5:38 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Tiberius - April 9, 2013 at 6:40 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Autumnlicious - April 9, 2013 at 6:49 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Tiberius - April 9, 2013 at 7:05 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Shell B - April 9, 2013 at 6:58 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Shell B - April 9, 2013 at 7:00 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Shell B - April 9, 2013 at 7:06 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by pocaracas - April 9, 2013 at 7:16 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Shell B - April 9, 2013 at 8:32 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Violet - April 10, 2013 at 6:51 am
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Shell B - April 9, 2013 at 7:18 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Autumnlicious - April 10, 2013 at 3:52 am
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Autumnlicious - April 10, 2013 at 5:49 am
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by frankiej - April 10, 2013 at 9:28 am
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Faith No More - April 10, 2013 at 6:32 am
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Napoléon - April 10, 2013 at 6:58 am
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Anomalocaris - April 10, 2013 at 9:06 am
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Violet - April 10, 2013 at 6:58 am
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by KichigaiNeko - April 10, 2013 at 9:10 am
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by DeistPaladin - April 10, 2013 at 9:11 am
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Anomalocaris - April 10, 2013 at 9:40 am
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Violet - April 10, 2013 at 2:54 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by thesummerqueen - April 10, 2013 at 3:32 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by LastPoet - April 10, 2013 at 3:36 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by thesummerqueen - April 10, 2013 at 3:38 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Tonus - April 10, 2013 at 3:38 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by thesummerqueen - April 10, 2013 at 3:39 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Cyberman - April 10, 2013 at 3:52 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by thesummerqueen - April 10, 2013 at 4:02 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Tiberius - April 10, 2013 at 4:37 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by thesummerqueen - April 10, 2013 at 4:47 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by downbeatplumb - April 12, 2013 at 12:50 pm

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