(April 8, 2013 at 2:11 pm)Tiberius Wrote: Is that what I said? I don't think that's what I said. Being ignorant of something doesn't mean you are "ignoring" it.
and this means:
Quote:I don't really have an opinion since I haven't researched them specifically.
something different?!?!?!?!
Quote:Yes..."obviously". Sorry, but I don't condone the killing/targeting of innocent people, neither under the guise of terrorism or "freedom fighting".
Sorry, but I dont condone nationaly implemented racism and the mandetory discrimination of civilians on the basis of their skincolor, neither under the guise of conservatism or being "against violence".
In some casis something is simply so wrong, that not being against it is wrong aswell.
Quote:You can fight for freedom without resorting to violence. Many activists in history have done this. Nelson Mandela wasn't one of them (though he became one).
No you cant. And it hasnt happened anywhere throughout history.
Quote:So did a lot of people back then. We have the advantage of looking back at how things eventually ended up, and it's much easier to side with those that win.
So you think I would side with a bunch of racists if the national african congress had failed?!?!?!
the appartheit regime was so wrong that almoust every single country in the world opposed and boycotted it, even Britain and the US - until Thatcher and Reagan took over and thought that being against appartheit and racism shouldnt stand in the way of the free market.
this has nothing to do with "we can look back" - appartheit was wrong - even by the standerds existing then!!
Quote:In my opinion, neither side (pro-apartheid and anti-apartheid) behaved particularly well. It's a shameful part of history for everyone involved.
That is not an exuse for supporting a racist regime.
The bombing of Dresden does not justify Auschwitz.
Quote:We're British. Relying on national stereotypes is how all international politics is done.
Oh really? I hope that was a joke!
Quote:Seriously though, no, I don't believe it's the correct way of engaging in international politics. Do I think Thatcher was wrong to do it? Yes. Does that affect my overall opinion of her, and the great work she did do for this country? No. People aren't perfect.
What makes you think that the "possitive things" outweigh the negative things?
