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Thatcher kicked the bucket.
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RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket.
(April 8, 2013 at 2:25 pm)The Germans are coming Wrote: and this means:

Quote:I don't really have an opinion since I haven't researched them specifically.

something different?!?!?!?!
Yes...yes it does. If I were ignoring it, then I'd first have to actually know about it. I'd then have to purposefully put it out of my mind when someone else mentions it. That isn't what I'm doing.

I don't have knowledge about it; it's not something I've looked into. I am ignorant of it, but I am not ignoring it. If you want to enlighten me, please send me a few links that you think are good reads.

Quote:Sorry, but I dont condone nationaly implemented racism and the mandetory discrimination of civilians on the basis of their skincolor, neither under the guise of conservatism or being "against violence".
Neither do I.

Quote:In some casis something is simply so wrong, that not being against it is wrong aswell.
You can be against something, but not resort to violence to solve it. It's called peaceful activism. Nelson Mandela is a peace activist, but he didn't used to be. Specifically, he wasn't at the time when you reference Thatcher's opinion of him. I doubt if you'd asked Thatcher what she thought of Nelson Mandela yesterday, she would have said the same thing. People can (and do) change their minds.

Quote:No you cant. And it hasnt happened anywhere throughout history.
Are you serious? Maybe it is you who needs a history lesson. Read up on Martin Luther King Jr. for starters.

Quote:So you think I would side with a bunch of racists if the national african congress had failed?!?!?!
I can't say for sure; nobody can. Our views are shaped by the times we live in. If you were born in Africa at the time of apartheid, the chances are, you would certainly be supportive of them.

What I'm getting at is that you need to apply context to quotes. Plenty of famous and respected people said racist stuff, but at the time, it wasn't considered racist or "wrong". Times change. More importantly, people change.

Quote:the appartheit regime was so wrong that almoust every single country in the world opposed and boycotted it, even Britain and the US - until Thatcher and Reagan took over and thought that being against appartheit and racism shouldnt stand in the way of the free market.
Yeah...maybe you should actually read up on history before you just spout your imagined version of events:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premiership...#Apartheid

Also, I just found this on the BBC website: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-22069896

Quote:That is not an exuse for supporting a racist regime.

The bombing of Dresden does not justify Auschwitz.
I never said it was. I've just linked to two sources which deny outright that Thatcher supported a racist regime.

Quote:Oh really? I hope that was a joke!
That's why I used a smiling emoticon. The French are all cheese-eating surrender monkeys, etc.

Quote:What makes you think that the "possitive things" outweigh the negative things?
Facts.
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RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by pocaracas - April 8, 2013 at 11:39 am
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Minimalist - April 8, 2013 at 11:39 am
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Anomalocaris - April 8, 2013 at 11:56 am
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Mister Agenda - April 8, 2013 at 12:09 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by downbeatplumb - April 8, 2013 at 12:44 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Tiberius - April 8, 2013 at 1:19 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Tiberius - April 8, 2013 at 1:48 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Tiberius - April 8, 2013 at 2:11 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Anomalocaris - April 8, 2013 at 1:48 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by downbeatplumb - April 8, 2013 at 2:26 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Tiberius - April 8, 2013 at 2:45 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by A Theist - April 8, 2013 at 3:08 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Tiberius - April 8, 2013 at 6:13 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Tiberius - April 9, 2013 at 1:41 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Ben Davis - April 9, 2013 at 6:19 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by downbeatplumb - April 8, 2013 at 3:13 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by fr0d0 - April 8, 2013 at 4:04 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by DeistPaladin - April 8, 2013 at 4:41 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Minimalist - April 8, 2013 at 8:37 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Rev. Rye - April 8, 2013 at 11:17 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by fr0d0 - April 8, 2013 at 5:04 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by CapnAwesome - April 8, 2013 at 6:38 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Anomalocaris - April 8, 2013 at 6:44 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by CapnAwesome - April 8, 2013 at 6:54 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Tonus - April 8, 2013 at 6:57 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Darkstar - April 8, 2013 at 8:29 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Shell B - April 8, 2013 at 11:34 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Rev. Rye - April 8, 2013 at 8:35 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Polaris - April 8, 2013 at 11:12 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Minimalist - April 8, 2013 at 11:36 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Polaris - April 8, 2013 at 11:38 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Tonus - April 9, 2013 at 6:22 am
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Mister Agenda - April 9, 2013 at 9:54 am
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Minimalist - April 8, 2013 at 11:40 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Polaris - April 8, 2013 at 11:48 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Polaris - April 9, 2013 at 8:29 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Polaris - April 9, 2013 at 8:48 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by fr0d0 - April 9, 2013 at 2:03 am
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Autumnlicious - April 9, 2013 at 10:44 am
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by A Theist - April 9, 2013 at 12:24 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Minimalist - April 9, 2013 at 2:51 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by A Theist - April 10, 2013 at 7:32 am
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Autumnlicious - April 9, 2013 at 5:19 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Mister Agenda - April 9, 2013 at 5:38 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Tiberius - April 9, 2013 at 6:40 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Autumnlicious - April 9, 2013 at 6:49 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Tiberius - April 9, 2013 at 7:05 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Shell B - April 9, 2013 at 6:58 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Shell B - April 9, 2013 at 7:00 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Shell B - April 9, 2013 at 7:06 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by pocaracas - April 9, 2013 at 7:16 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Shell B - April 9, 2013 at 8:32 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Violet - April 10, 2013 at 6:51 am
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Shell B - April 9, 2013 at 7:18 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Autumnlicious - April 10, 2013 at 3:52 am
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Autumnlicious - April 10, 2013 at 5:49 am
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by frankiej - April 10, 2013 at 9:28 am
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Faith No More - April 10, 2013 at 6:32 am
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Napoléon - April 10, 2013 at 6:58 am
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Anomalocaris - April 10, 2013 at 9:06 am
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Violet - April 10, 2013 at 6:58 am
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by KichigaiNeko - April 10, 2013 at 9:10 am
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by DeistPaladin - April 10, 2013 at 9:11 am
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Anomalocaris - April 10, 2013 at 9:40 am
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Violet - April 10, 2013 at 2:54 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by thesummerqueen - April 10, 2013 at 3:32 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by LastPoet - April 10, 2013 at 3:36 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by thesummerqueen - April 10, 2013 at 3:38 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Tonus - April 10, 2013 at 3:38 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by thesummerqueen - April 10, 2013 at 3:39 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Cyberman - April 10, 2013 at 3:52 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by thesummerqueen - April 10, 2013 at 4:02 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by Tiberius - April 10, 2013 at 4:37 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by thesummerqueen - April 10, 2013 at 4:47 pm
RE: Thatcher kicked the bucket. - by downbeatplumb - April 12, 2013 at 12:50 pm

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