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In the beginning...
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RE: In the beginning...
(April 9, 2013 at 12:22 pm)stone Wrote: Hold on, you asked me to come here and speak with you guys. If you want to debate with DR.Craig, then speak with him, if you want to speak with me, then speak with me.

Ok Stone. How does God will creation onto nothing and create something? Without anything to be effected by his power (no matter how much it may be) the power itself is useless and not effective.

The very concept of him willing it into place suggests there was a state of change within His will

(A state that He did not will it, into a changed state of His will from which it occurs) Without time, how is there change? Even change as in his difference in will?
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In the beginning... - by The Reality Salesman - April 9, 2013 at 9:20 am
RE: In the beginning... - by Mister Agenda - April 9, 2013 at 10:02 am
RE: In the beginning... - by Drich - April 9, 2013 at 10:32 am
RE: In the beginning... - by Mister Agenda - April 11, 2013 at 12:38 pm
RE: In the beginning... - by Neo-Scholastic - April 11, 2013 at 12:50 pm
RE: In the beginning... - by CapnAwesome - April 13, 2013 at 12:35 pm
RE: In the beginning... - by ThomM - April 11, 2013 at 9:42 pm
RE: In the beginning... - by Drich - April 9, 2013 at 10:19 am
RE: In the beginning... - by The Reality Salesman - April 9, 2013 at 10:42 am
RE: In the beginning... - by Neo-Scholastic - April 9, 2013 at 10:22 am
RE: In the beginning... - by Tonus - April 9, 2013 at 10:40 am
RE: In the beginning... - by Neo-Scholastic - April 9, 2013 at 10:46 am
RE: In the beginning... - by The Reality Salesman - April 9, 2013 at 10:49 am
RE: In the beginning... - by Neo-Scholastic - April 9, 2013 at 11:10 am
RE: In the beginning... - by stone - April 9, 2013 at 11:12 am
RE: In the beginning... - by Darwinian - April 9, 2013 at 11:54 am
RE: In the beginning... - by stone - April 13, 2013 at 10:19 am
RE: In the beginning... - by Esquilax - April 13, 2013 at 11:20 am
RE: In the beginning... - by Minimalist - April 9, 2013 at 11:44 am
RE: In the beginning... - by The Grand Nudger - April 9, 2013 at 11:48 am
RE: In the beginning... - by stone - April 9, 2013 at 12:12 pm
RE: In the beginning... - by Minimalist - April 9, 2013 at 11:54 am
RE: In the beginning... - by The Grand Nudger - April 9, 2013 at 11:56 am
RE: In the beginning... - by The Reality Salesman - April 9, 2013 at 12:14 pm
RE: In the beginning... - by stone - April 9, 2013 at 12:22 pm
RE: In the beginning... - by The Reality Salesman - April 9, 2013 at 12:28 pm
RE: In the beginning... - by stone - April 9, 2013 at 4:32 pm
RE: In the beginning... - by Neo-Scholastic - April 9, 2013 at 4:42 pm
RE: In the beginning... - by stone - April 9, 2013 at 4:49 pm
RE: In the beginning... - by Neo-Scholastic - April 9, 2013 at 6:14 pm
RE: In the beginning... - by Baalzebutt - April 9, 2013 at 6:20 pm
RE: In the beginning... - by Neo-Scholastic - April 9, 2013 at 10:33 pm
RE: In the beginning... - by Baalzebutt - April 9, 2013 at 4:57 pm
RE: In the beginning... - by stone - April 9, 2013 at 6:03 pm
RE: In the beginning... - by Baalzebutt - April 9, 2013 at 6:10 pm
RE: In the beginning... - by Neo-Scholastic - April 9, 2013 at 12:28 pm
RE: In the beginning... - by The Reality Salesman - April 9, 2013 at 12:38 pm
RE: In the beginning... - by Neo-Scholastic - April 9, 2013 at 12:38 pm
RE: In the beginning... - by Baalzebutt - April 9, 2013 at 12:46 pm
RE: In the beginning... - by Neo-Scholastic - April 9, 2013 at 4:07 pm
RE: In the beginning... - by LastPoet - April 9, 2013 at 4:11 pm
RE: In the beginning... - by Neo-Scholastic - April 9, 2013 at 4:21 pm
RE: In the beginning... - by fr0d0 - April 9, 2013 at 5:02 pm
RE: In the beginning... - by The Reality Salesman - April 9, 2013 at 9:03 pm
RE: In the beginning... - by Ryantology - April 9, 2013 at 9:11 pm
RE: In the beginning... - by The Reality Salesman - April 9, 2013 at 9:13 pm
RE: In the beginning... - by fr0d0 - April 10, 2013 at 2:29 am
RE: In the beginning... - by LastPoet - April 10, 2013 at 3:22 am
RE: In the beginning... - by The Reality Salesman - April 10, 2013 at 8:31 am
RE: In the beginning... - by fr0d0 - April 10, 2013 at 4:37 pm
RE: In the beginning... - by Ryantology - April 10, 2013 at 3:14 am
RE: In the beginning... - by fr0d0 - April 10, 2013 at 8:26 am
RE: In the beginning... - by Neo-Scholastic - April 10, 2013 at 9:45 am
RE: In the beginning... - by smax - April 10, 2013 at 10:19 am
RE: In the beginning... - by archangle - April 10, 2013 at 11:18 am
RE: In the beginning... - by Neo-Scholastic - April 10, 2013 at 11:47 am
RE: In the beginning... - by archangle - April 10, 2013 at 5:22 pm
RE: In the beginning... - by Neo-Scholastic - April 10, 2013 at 5:49 pm
RE: In the beginning... - by archangle - April 10, 2013 at 8:43 pm
RE: In the beginning... - by Neo-Scholastic - April 11, 2013 at 11:56 am
RE: In the beginning... - by archangle - April 11, 2013 at 12:48 pm
RE: In the beginning... - by Ryantology - April 10, 2013 at 4:47 pm
RE: In the beginning... - by fr0d0 - April 10, 2013 at 5:42 pm
RE: In the beginning... - by Ryantology - April 10, 2013 at 6:48 pm
RE: In the beginning... - by fr0d0 - April 10, 2013 at 11:54 pm
RE: In the beginning... - by Ryantology - April 11, 2013 at 12:04 am
RE: In the beginning... - by Neo-Scholastic - April 11, 2013 at 10:34 am
RE: In the beginning... - by archangle - April 11, 2013 at 10:56 am
RE: In the beginning... - by Ryantology - April 11, 2013 at 3:47 pm
RE: In the beginning... - by Neo-Scholastic - April 11, 2013 at 4:29 pm
RE: In the beginning... - by Ryantology - April 11, 2013 at 4:59 pm
RE: In the beginning... - by The Reality Salesman - April 11, 2013 at 8:43 am
RE: In the beginning... - by archangle - April 11, 2013 at 8:55 am
RE: In the beginning... - by fr0d0 - April 11, 2013 at 12:09 am
RE: In the beginning... - by archangle - April 11, 2013 at 8:08 am
RE: In the beginning... - by Tonus - April 11, 2013 at 11:23 am
RE: In the beginning... - by fr0d0 - April 11, 2013 at 6:01 pm
RE: In the beginning... - by The Reality Salesman - April 11, 2013 at 10:46 pm
RE: In the beginning... - by Neo-Scholastic - April 12, 2013 at 10:16 am
RE: In the beginning... - by The Reality Salesman - April 12, 2013 at 12:03 pm
RE: In the beginning... - by fr0d0 - April 12, 2013 at 12:58 am
RE: In the beginning... - by A_Nony_Mouse - April 12, 2013 at 3:41 am
RE: In the beginning... - by Neo-Scholastic - April 12, 2013 at 12:25 pm
RE: In the beginning... - by A_Nony_Mouse - April 14, 2013 at 1:15 am
RE: In the beginning... - by StatCrux - April 13, 2013 at 11:12 am
RE: In the beginning... - by Neo-Scholastic - April 13, 2013 at 11:12 am
RE: In the beginning... - by archangle - April 13, 2013 at 11:46 am
RE: In the beginning... - by Tonus - April 13, 2013 at 11:52 am
RE: In the beginning... - by archangle - April 14, 2013 at 6:59 pm
RE: In the beginning... - by A_Nony_Mouse - April 14, 2013 at 11:58 pm
RE: In the beginning... - by Tex - April 14, 2013 at 10:31 pm
RE: In the beginning... - by Tex - April 15, 2013 at 12:58 am
RE: In the beginning... - by archangle - April 15, 2013 at 8:41 am
RE: In the beginning... - by Tex - April 15, 2013 at 11:40 am
RE: In the beginning... - by A_Nony_Mouse - April 17, 2013 at 4:59 am
RE: In the beginning... - by Tex - April 17, 2013 at 1:08 pm
RE: In the beginning... - by The Reality Salesman - April 17, 2013 at 1:13 pm
RE: In the beginning... - by Tex - April 17, 2013 at 2:21 pm
RE: In the beginning... - by A_Nony_Mouse - April 17, 2013 at 7:10 pm
RE: In the beginning... - by Ryantology - April 15, 2013 at 1:37 am
RE: In the beginning... - by Neo-Scholastic - April 15, 2013 at 1:31 pm
RE: In the beginning... - by The Reality Salesman - April 15, 2013 at 1:37 pm
RE: In the beginning... - by Ryantology - April 17, 2013 at 9:15 am
RE: In the beginning... - by Neo-Scholastic - April 17, 2013 at 9:24 am
RE: In the beginning... - by A_Nony_Mouse - April 17, 2013 at 10:43 am
RE: In the beginning... - by Minimalist - April 17, 2013 at 1:34 pm
RE: In the beginning... - by Tonus - April 17, 2013 at 2:03 pm
RE: In the beginning... - by Ryantology - April 17, 2013 at 2:45 pm
RE: In the beginning... - by The Reality Salesman - April 17, 2013 at 2:54 pm
RE: In the beginning... - by Tex - April 17, 2013 at 4:40 pm
RE: In the beginning... - by Ryantology - April 17, 2013 at 7:29 pm
RE: In the beginning... - by Tex - April 17, 2013 at 10:31 pm
RE: In the beginning... - by A_Nony_Mouse - April 18, 2013 at 11:34 am
RE: In the beginning... - by Tex - April 18, 2013 at 7:58 pm
RE: In the beginning... - by A_Nony_Mouse - April 18, 2013 at 9:20 pm
RE: In the beginning... - by Tex - April 19, 2013 at 3:19 pm
RE: In the beginning... - by A_Nony_Mouse - April 17, 2013 at 8:01 pm

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