RE: In the beginning...
April 12, 2013 at 12:03 pm
(This post was last modified: April 12, 2013 at 12:05 pm by The Reality Salesman01.)
(April 12, 2013 at 10:16 am)ChadWooters Wrote: Don't get mad just because our beliefs don't conform to your stereotype. The only impossibilities you see are those associated with a very limited conception of God. The actual Christian tradition has refined its conceptions of God over hundreds of years of reflection, from Aristotle to Aquinas up to this day.
(April 11, 2013 at 10:46 pm)Texas Sailor Wrote: Aquinas and Aristotle's assumptions were based on absolute time which is something that nobody in support of theism seems to recognize as a real deal breaker to their theories. That is the sterotype that thesits of all sorts continue to confrom to and no, it doesn't make me mad. Its just odd that any champion of logic is dead set on ignoring relative time and its implications to he aristillian and aquinian roots to their claims. If you wish to avoid stereotypes, I wish to hear a version of a God tale that proves relativity wrong and shows how a God of unlimited power can change before the components which enable change to exist are in effect, and have it make sense at all. Not to mention the continued talks of Omnipotence without changing the definition of the word into yet another impossible thing to exist. I would like a list of 10 things, barney-style that you think are properties of the God you defend. You know, as if God was your car...
My Car has...
Silver wheels
Red Paint Job
Can go zero-60 in 4 seconds
Requires Premium Fuel
Needs an oil change every 4,000 miles
Etc...
Then at least we can have a clear idea of what exactly you are claiming.
I'm not completely sure what you are defending anymore. You seem to be discussing some version of the theorhetical 10th dimension as posited by string theory and calling it God.
Is this what you continue to defend?
(April 11, 2013 at 10:46 pm)Texas Sailor Wrote: If you are throwing logic out the window to make your own rules, I can too! Two wrongs make a right! FUCK IT! Lol
(April 12, 2013 at 10:16 am)ChadWooters Wrote: You always have the option of pointing out the contradictions in our ideas instead of resorting to insults. You seem like a reasonable person. Please don't be like some AF members who start ranting about the dishonest motives of believers instead of adapting their questions to the actual ideas we present.I'm just playin around brotha! You can believe whatever you want and I don't surmise that insults will slow you down, but I do assure they are light hearted in nature and not intended to offend. I'm just not wired to accept the proposal of an explanation at face value merely because its unfalsifiably possible. But, as long as something is possible by even the smallest of margins, there will be somebody attempting to pawn it off as probable. I accept this inevitable fate.