In the beginning...

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RE: In the beginning...

April 13, 2013 at 12:35 pm

(April 9, 2013 at 10:32 am)Drich Wrote: If you look at Genesis 1:1 something did not come out of nothing. "In the beginning God created the Heavens and the earth, and the earth was without form and void."

It says God created X and Y It does not say from nothing X and Y were manifested. We know this because the word for Create is the Hebrew ברא bara' it means to shape or form. The Idea is like taking a lump of clay or a rock and to shape it into a vessal.

Are you saying that then the Universe is infinite in time, along with God? If something was not created from nothing it existed already. In which case I don't see the need for God at all.

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In the beginning... - by The Reality Salesman - April 9, 2013 at 9:20 am

RE: In the beginning... - by Mister Agenda - April 9, 2013 at 10:02 am

RE: In the beginning... - by Drich - April 9, 2013 at 10:32 am

RE: In the beginning... - by Mister Agenda - April 11, 2013 at 12:38 pm

RE: In the beginning... - by Neo-Scholastic - April 11, 2013 at 12:50 pm

RE: In the beginning... - by CapnAwesome - April 13, 2013 at 12:35 pm

RE: In the beginning... - by ThomM - April 11, 2013 at 9:42 pm

RE: In the beginning... - by Drich - April 9, 2013 at 10:19 am

RE: In the beginning... - by The Reality Salesman - April 9, 2013 at 10:42 am

RE: In the beginning... - by Neo-Scholastic - April 9, 2013 at 10:22 am

RE: In the beginning... - by Tonus - April 9, 2013 at 10:40 am

RE: In the beginning... - by Neo-Scholastic - April 9, 2013 at 10:46 am

RE: In the beginning... - by The Reality Salesman - April 9, 2013 at 10:49 am

RE: In the beginning... - by Neo-Scholastic - April 9, 2013 at 11:10 am

RE: In the beginning... - by stone - April 9, 2013 at 11:12 am

RE: In the beginning... - by Darwinian - April 9, 2013 at 11:54 am

RE: In the beginning... - by stone - April 13, 2013 at 10:19 am

RE: In the beginning... - by Esquilax - April 13, 2013 at 11:20 am

RE: In the beginning... - by Minimalist - April 9, 2013 at 11:44 am

RE: In the beginning... - by The Grand Nudger - April 9, 2013 at 11:48 am

RE: In the beginning... - by stone - April 9, 2013 at 12:12 pm

RE: In the beginning... - by Minimalist - April 9, 2013 at 11:54 am

RE: In the beginning... - by The Grand Nudger - April 9, 2013 at 11:56 am

RE: In the beginning... - by The Reality Salesman - April 9, 2013 at 12:14 pm

RE: In the beginning... - by stone - April 9, 2013 at 12:22 pm

RE: In the beginning... - by The Reality Salesman - April 9, 2013 at 12:28 pm

RE: In the beginning... - by stone - April 9, 2013 at 4:32 pm

RE: In the beginning... - by Neo-Scholastic - April 9, 2013 at 4:42 pm

RE: In the beginning... - by stone - April 9, 2013 at 4:49 pm

RE: In the beginning... - by Neo-Scholastic - April 9, 2013 at 6:14 pm

RE: In the beginning... - by Baalzebutt - April 9, 2013 at 6:20 pm

RE: In the beginning... - by Neo-Scholastic - April 9, 2013 at 10:33 pm

RE: In the beginning... - by Baalzebutt - April 9, 2013 at 4:57 pm

RE: In the beginning... - by stone - April 9, 2013 at 6:03 pm

RE: In the beginning... - by Baalzebutt - April 9, 2013 at 6:10 pm

RE: In the beginning... - by Neo-Scholastic - April 9, 2013 at 12:28 pm

RE: In the beginning... - by The Reality Salesman - April 9, 2013 at 12:38 pm

RE: In the beginning... - by Neo-Scholastic - April 9, 2013 at 12:38 pm

RE: In the beginning... - by Baalzebutt - April 9, 2013 at 12:46 pm

RE: In the beginning... - by Neo-Scholastic - April 9, 2013 at 4:07 pm

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RE: In the beginning... - by fr0d0 - April 9, 2013 at 5:02 pm

RE: In the beginning... - by The Reality Salesman - April 9, 2013 at 9:03 pm

RE: In the beginning... - by Ryantology - April 9, 2013 at 9:11 pm

RE: In the beginning... - by The Reality Salesman - April 9, 2013 at 9:13 pm

RE: In the beginning... - by fr0d0 - April 10, 2013 at 2:29 am

RE: In the beginning... - by LastPoet - April 10, 2013 at 3:22 am

RE: In the beginning... - by The Reality Salesman - April 10, 2013 at 8:31 am

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RE: In the beginning... - by Neo-Scholastic - April 10, 2013 at 9:45 am

RE: In the beginning... - by smax - April 10, 2013 at 10:19 am

RE: In the beginning... - by archangle - April 10, 2013 at 11:18 am

RE: In the beginning... - by Neo-Scholastic - April 10, 2013 at 11:47 am

RE: In the beginning... - by archangle - April 10, 2013 at 5:22 pm

RE: In the beginning... - by Neo-Scholastic - April 10, 2013 at 5:49 pm

RE: In the beginning... - by archangle - April 10, 2013 at 8:43 pm

RE: In the beginning... - by Neo-Scholastic - April 11, 2013 at 11:56 am

RE: In the beginning... - by archangle - April 11, 2013 at 12:48 pm

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RE: In the beginning... - by fr0d0 - April 10, 2013 at 11:54 pm

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RE: In the beginning... - by Neo-Scholastic - April 11, 2013 at 10:34 am

RE: In the beginning... - by archangle - April 11, 2013 at 10:56 am

RE: In the beginning... - by Ryantology - April 11, 2013 at 3:47 pm

RE: In the beginning... - by Neo-Scholastic - April 11, 2013 at 4:29 pm

RE: In the beginning... - by Ryantology - April 11, 2013 at 4:59 pm

RE: In the beginning... - by The Reality Salesman - April 11, 2013 at 8:43 am

RE: In the beginning... - by archangle - April 11, 2013 at 8:55 am

RE: In the beginning... - by fr0d0 - April 11, 2013 at 12:09 am

RE: In the beginning... - by archangle - April 11, 2013 at 8:08 am

RE: In the beginning... - by Tonus - April 11, 2013 at 11:23 am

RE: In the beginning... - by fr0d0 - April 11, 2013 at 6:01 pm

RE: In the beginning... - by The Reality Salesman - April 11, 2013 at 10:46 pm

RE: In the beginning... - by Neo-Scholastic - April 12, 2013 at 10:16 am

RE: In the beginning... - by The Reality Salesman - April 12, 2013 at 12:03 pm

RE: In the beginning... - by fr0d0 - April 12, 2013 at 12:58 am

RE: In the beginning... - by A_Nony_Mouse - April 12, 2013 at 3:41 am

RE: In the beginning... - by Neo-Scholastic - April 12, 2013 at 12:25 pm

RE: In the beginning... - by A_Nony_Mouse - April 14, 2013 at 1:15 am

RE: In the beginning... - by StatCrux - April 13, 2013 at 11:12 am

RE: In the beginning... - by Neo-Scholastic - April 13, 2013 at 11:12 am

RE: In the beginning... - by archangle - April 13, 2013 at 11:46 am

RE: In the beginning... - by Tonus - April 13, 2013 at 11:52 am

RE: In the beginning... - by archangle - April 14, 2013 at 6:59 pm

RE: In the beginning... - by A_Nony_Mouse - April 14, 2013 at 11:58 pm

RE: In the beginning... - by Tex - April 14, 2013 at 10:31 pm

RE: In the beginning... - by Tex - April 15, 2013 at 12:58 am

RE: In the beginning... - by archangle - April 15, 2013 at 8:41 am

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RE: In the beginning... - by A_Nony_Mouse - April 17, 2013 at 4:59 am

RE: In the beginning... - by Tex - April 17, 2013 at 1:08 pm

RE: In the beginning... - by The Reality Salesman - April 17, 2013 at 1:13 pm

RE: In the beginning... - by Tex - April 17, 2013 at 2:21 pm

RE: In the beginning... - by A_Nony_Mouse - April 17, 2013 at 7:10 pm

RE: In the beginning... - by Ryantology - April 15, 2013 at 1:37 am

RE: In the beginning... - by Neo-Scholastic - April 15, 2013 at 1:31 pm

RE: In the beginning... - by The Reality Salesman - April 15, 2013 at 1:37 pm

RE: In the beginning... - by Ryantology - April 17, 2013 at 9:15 am

RE: In the beginning... - by Neo-Scholastic - April 17, 2013 at 9:24 am

RE: In the beginning... - by A_Nony_Mouse - April 17, 2013 at 10:43 am

RE: In the beginning... - by Minimalist - April 17, 2013 at 1:34 pm

RE: In the beginning... - by Tonus - April 17, 2013 at 2:03 pm

RE: In the beginning... - by Ryantology - April 17, 2013 at 2:45 pm

RE: In the beginning... - by The Reality Salesman - April 17, 2013 at 2:54 pm

RE: In the beginning... - by Tex - April 17, 2013 at 4:40 pm

RE: In the beginning... - by Ryantology - April 17, 2013 at 7:29 pm

RE: In the beginning... - by Tex - April 17, 2013 at 10:31 pm

RE: In the beginning... - by A_Nony_Mouse - April 18, 2013 at 11:34 am

RE: In the beginning... - by Tex - April 18, 2013 at 7:58 pm

RE: In the beginning... - by A_Nony_Mouse - April 18, 2013 at 9:20 pm

RE: In the beginning... - by Tex - April 19, 2013 at 3:19 pm

RE: In the beginning... - by A_Nony_Mouse - April 17, 2013 at 8:01 pm

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