Show me your proof

[A_Nony_Mouse]

You might be able to improve this argument if you understood statistics and physics. But unfortunately you do not.

I'll do a proof. Nobody better steal it, cause I made it up all my self. And since I made it up all myself, it probably wont work well, if at all.

"Cause and effect" doesn't actually exist as some ethereal governing principle, but nevertheless is what we perceive when examining the world. Theoretically, if matter or electromagnetic forces acted differently, we would get different effects from causes. Our universe is quantitatively coherent, or, more scientifically termed, we have a conservation of mass/energy. However, this law is the same "cause and effect" thing, just expressed differently. Conservation is not some ethereal governing principle, but it is simply how the universe operates. But, there could be universe X where energy was able to be created. If friction worked in the opposite, energy would constantly be created. Or, universe X could randomly create mass.

You forgot to point out either those would require mass and energy NOT to be the same thing. And that would imply a universe without gravity or electrostatic force and thus no matter at all and thus you are imagining an impossible set of conditions.

Or Hershey bars. Or bunnies. Or all sorts of different things. In fact, if we imagine a lack of cause and effect to a universe, there is an infinite possibility for what the effect might be for any given cause. That's actually what I want to do here: don't use the presuppositions the universe gives us naturally, but instead think of possibilities without the regular limits.

But any "limit" you imagine you can change has to be connected to everything else as it is here OR you cannot use words like mass or energy or bunnies. Remove any connection between things and all of things can no longer exist.

The possibility of effect is not based on cause, so we can say it is baseless or random.

Random is not restricted, so the effect has an endless or infinite amount of possibilities.

When you can show more than three outcomes (on edge) for a coin toss that might make sense. Obviously you know nothing all the known possible statistical distributions. OR as with your mass and energy and bunnies there is no statistics at all. Everything is non-random and ...

Out of the infinite possibility for chaotic universes, there is only one possibility for our ordered universe.

Our universe is impossible to exist. lim(x->∞) 1/x = 0

... therefore the limit equation is false.

The universe shouldn't make sense. We should have bunnies poofing into existence all over the place while gravity sporadically turns on and off. Instead, we have order. Therefore, I argue design.

So I have to recommend you learn what the words you are using means and the consequences of those meanings. The best you are doing is saying imagine a universe where there is only magic. That is unrelated to any conceivable reality.

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Therefore, I argue design.

See another of my posts from today where I demonstrate with a few examples the design is not intelligent but incompetent. Alternatively you can argue the design is malevolent but it is impossible to argue it is intelligent.