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The Argument From Nonbelief
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RE: The Argument From Nonbelief
(April 18, 2013 at 6:41 pm)peacemaker Wrote: Jesus never ever ever said he was god or he was literally the son of God,

I note that you used the word "literal." I am assuming, then, that any passage where Jesus compares himself to god or explicitly calls himself the son of god will be treated as non-literal. Because he did call himself the son of god, and his critics accused him of claiming godhood.

John 10:31-36
Quote:31 Again his Jewish opponents picked up stones to stone him, 32 but Jesus said to them, “I have shown you many good works from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?” 33 “We are not stoning you for any good work,” they replied, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.” 34 Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I have said you are “gods”’[d]? 35 If he called them ‘gods,’ to whom the word of God came—and Scripture cannot be set aside— 36 what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’?
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The Argument From Nonbelief - by median - April 16, 2013 at 5:16 pm
RE: The Argument From Nonbelief - by Minimalist - April 16, 2013 at 5:21 pm
RE: The Argument From Nonbelief - by catfish - April 16, 2013 at 5:32 pm
RE: The Argument From Nonbelief - by Minimalist - April 16, 2013 at 5:44 pm
RE: The Argument From Nonbelief - by Simon Moon - April 16, 2013 at 5:35 pm
RE: The Argument From Nonbelief - by Tonus - April 16, 2013 at 6:46 pm
RE: The Argument From Nonbelief - by median - April 17, 2013 at 2:06 am
RE: The Argument From Nonbelief - by catfish - April 17, 2013 at 5:36 pm
RE: The Argument From Nonbelief - by tokutter - April 18, 2013 at 10:03 am
RE: The Argument From Nonbelief - by Lord Privy Seal - April 18, 2013 at 11:17 am
RE: The Argument From Nonbelief - by median - April 18, 2013 at 1:42 pm
RE: The Argument From Nonbelief - by catfish - April 18, 2013 at 2:00 pm
RE: The Argument From Nonbelief - by Napoléon - April 18, 2013 at 2:02 pm
RE: The Argument From Nonbelief - by median - April 18, 2013 at 2:48 pm
RE: The Argument From Nonbelief - by catfish - April 18, 2013 at 5:47 pm
RE: The Argument From Nonbelief - by median - April 21, 2013 at 4:23 pm
RE: The Argument From Nonbelief - by Mister Agenda - April 18, 2013 at 6:23 pm
RE: The Argument From Nonbelief - by peacemaker - April 18, 2013 at 6:41 pm
RE: The Argument From Nonbelief - by Tonus - April 18, 2013 at 8:13 pm
Re: RE: The Argument From Nonbelief - by frz - April 18, 2013 at 7:50 pm

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