Show me your proof

[A_Nony_Mouse]

You forgot to point out either those would require mass and energy NOT to be the same thing. And that would imply a universe without gravity or electrostatic force and thus no matter at all and thus you are imagining an impossible set of conditions.

Well, I thought I did by stating there is one law of conservation of mass/energy. I'll state it better next time.

Please restate it better right now before you "forget" your promise to do better next time. Because you know you are planning to ignore the issue of course.

But any "limit" you imagine you can change has to be connected to everything else as it is here OR you cannot use words like mass or energy or bunnies. Remove any connection between things and all of things can no longer exist.

Those were just examples. My proof is not "limited" to those. =p

So lets have some examples which are applicable to your premises. Again you are planning to ignore it so please lets have working examples right now.

When you can show more than three outcomes (on edge) for a coin toss that might make sense. Obviously you know nothing all the known possible statistical distributions. OR as with your mass and energy and bunnies there is no statistics at all. Everything is non-random and ...

A coin toss only has 3 options, yes, but I'm trying to describe a infinite-sided die roll. Since we're not rolling for Order vs. Disorder (coin toss, no edge) but we're rolling for every cause and effect scenario out there ever (there is no actual "law" outside of our minds dictating cause and effect), the ratio is not 1:1 but 1:∞.

An infinite sided die is a sphere in geometry. In geometry a sphere has only an outside meaning there can be only one result which is a 1:1 ratio.

In practice because a die can only be made of matter there are finite molecules in the die so there are only finite results. Here the ratio is 1:large number.

Cause and effect does not come into this at all.

... therefore the limit equation is false.

I worded this poorly. I should have said, "Opposed to the infinite possibility for chaos, there is only one possibility for an ordered cause and effect equation." However, I was trying to encompass the whole universe and just messed it all up. Sorry about that.

In quantum mechanics there are a huge number of possibilities existing all at the same time none of which have anything to do with causality. You have said nothing that is true so far.

So I have to recommend you learn what the words you are using means and the consequences of those meanings. The best you are doing is saying imagine a universe where there is only magic. That is unrelated to any conceivable reality.

I'm trying to convey the absurdity of the existence of cause and effect.

Why would you raise what has been well known for decades from quantum mechanics?

And even magic is more cause and effect]/quote]

There is no magic therefore no cause and effect is very obvious.

[quote](I say X while doing Y and Z will happen).

X is word magic. Y is gesture magic. But Z will never happen. You make no sense.

I'm talking about complete randomness. No equation, no reason, no process, just action.

Randomness is ALWAYS describable. There is an equation to describe all known forms. As that is all there is there is nothing you can be talking about which exists. As I said in the last the only non-random system is one that is completly deterministic.

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Tex,

The sun will burn out, the earth will become uninhabitable, and galaxies will collide.

At best, you are arguing for poor design.

But the sun burning out has a logical reason to it. There is a coherency to our universe that does not statistically make sense.

Of course the sun its material into heavier elements makes statistical sense. You to learn quantum mechanics and probability wave distributions. As you are likely not up to it as you have shown you do not and apparently cannot understand either statistics or physics I can only advise you to stop posting this nonsense. It serves only to expose your ignorance.

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It's logically impossible to "roll" an infinite-sided die, isn't it???
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Anyone can roll a sphere but it has only one side. Odd that infinity = one, no?

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Maybe it wouldn't ever stop rolling! :o

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