Atheism, Theism, Science & Philosophy

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If those conditions are ridiculous even in the communication of what we might call knowledge or truth, how are they supposed to help us obtain either?

To reiterate, it is impossible to communicate a concept without reason. Not once in this thread have I stated that we should discard reason altogether; that would be absurd. I have obviously used reason in every single reply. I have been driving the point that, wait for it, "reason has limits", and requires supplementation in many areas. Below is one prime example.

(I won't begrudge you using a little reason to get to the supplemental point - I knew you had to- I just want you to get there faster -by removing reason you are left with nothing to prattle on about-. In short, I'm tired of foreplay and I want the money-shot)

Supplementing rationalism with relativism. I have copied the following passage from post #130 to save time: "For example, if you and I had an interesting rational and logical conversation about a particular topic (and both you and I had an opinion about what we hold as true), how can you prove that your subjective opinion is actually true? Therefore, in this type of situation relativism trumps rationalsm and empiricism for the opinion held by the individual. I also find this with scientific evidence. If two people are viewing the same peer reviewed scientific document that presents evidence to disprove a theory, each person could be interpreting the evidence completely differently from each other. I think these are good examples that show the limits of reason."

Relativism posits that opinions or points of view have no absolute truth; that is, what might be true for you, is not necessarily true for me. Once again, what you hold as true for any particular concept is not going to be true for everybody else. Therefore, even if you have used impeccable reasoned argument to come to a conclusion, relativism still trumps reason in this instance.