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Why pray?
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RE: Why pray?
(April 26, 2013 at 4:20 pm)Gabriel Syme Wrote:
(April 25, 2013 at 10:51 am)justin Wrote: Why pray? What is prayer good for? Isn't it just wishful thinking? Do you think it makes a difference?

Hi Justin,

From the Catholic (universal) Christian perspective, prayer is primarily a conversation, a form of communication, with God or even the Saints. Prayer can be vocal or mental.

(Saints are the people who are with God - i.e. who are "in Heaven".)

Catholic Christians talk to God for various reasons:

- to adore / glorify God

We love God, our Father: He appreciates hearing that, just like any biological parent does. This doesn't represent vanity or being "needy", (for God or biological parents), but just the simple beauty, happiness and contentedness which comes through knowing that someone you love also loves you back. To be givers and receivers of love is why we exist.

- to give thanks to Him

For our very lives, for our talents and gifts, for our amazing universe and beautiful planet, for those whom we love, for our favourite music, for all the good things in our lives, for our everyday experiences, for all the little things that make us smile, for all we have seen and done, for all we have learnt etc etc

God is the source of all of this, and we are thankful for it.

- to express contrition

Ie for whenever we f*ck things up somehow, which we all (not just Catholics!) do and very frequently. We Catholics call these occasions "Sins".

Sins offend God and injure or even rupture (end) our relationship with Him. Practising Catholics must repair this situation via contrition in prayer, hence they pray.

- to ask for His benefits

Essentially to petition God for things, Eg: To ask God for His grace: for courage, strength, humility, or patience for oneself, or for the wellbeing and care of loved ones, including those whose mortal lives have ended.

Archbishop Fulton Sheen, an American, said we pray “because we are orchestras and we always need a tune-up.” He taught the importance of prayer in recharging our spiritual batteries.

As for my own experience of prayer, I would say that, done properly (which isn't always, at times people can be guilty of rushed, or absent minded prayer, or can be distracted etc) I find it a very fulfilling experience, which leaves me feeling very serene, refreshed and content.



Well, to me the problem here is that God is supposedly all knowing.
This means God is going to know exactly how everyone is going to turn out in the future because he has created the recipe for everything.
God has therefore created beings which he knows will pray for him, he knows who will suffer and who will not, he has created certain personalities some are more prone to committing sins and some are not.

God will know at the time of creation who will commit bad acts, the IQ of every single individual, the neurons and their pathways in every individuals brain because he is the creator of a type of recipe.

In the same way I bake a cake, put it in the oven and expect a cake and not a pizza to come out.

You're also assuming God likes to receive prayers, now I wonder why is that?
Does God have a brain which releases endorphins? Does he have feelings? Why are you making him human-like?
Assuming god exists I do not think he loves anyone considering all the harsh punishments he has handed out to people who have done nothing wrong what so ever.

if you enjoy praying, be my guest but all these assumptions you make are just extremely unlikely.
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Messages In This Thread
Why pray? - by justin - April 25, 2013 at 10:51 am
RE: Why pray? - by Minimalist - April 25, 2013 at 10:57 am
RE: Why pray? - by justin - April 25, 2013 at 11:03 am
RE: Why pray? - by Minimalist - April 25, 2013 at 11:05 am
RE: Why pray? - by justin - April 25, 2013 at 11:26 am
RE: Why pray? - by Tonus - April 25, 2013 at 11:17 am
RE: Why pray? - by iameatingjam - April 28, 2013 at 1:58 pm
RE: Why pray? - by Minimalist - April 25, 2013 at 11:19 am
RE: Why pray? - by Fidel_Castronaut - April 25, 2013 at 11:34 am
RE: Why pray? - by Foxaèr - April 25, 2013 at 1:30 pm
RE: Why pray? - by Raven - April 26, 2013 at 12:44 pm
RE: Why pray? - by L.A.F. - April 26, 2013 at 12:57 pm
RE: Why pray? - by Minimalist - April 26, 2013 at 1:07 pm
RE: Why pray? - by Raven - April 26, 2013 at 1:38 pm
RE: Why pray? - by Tonus - April 26, 2013 at 1:43 pm
RE: Why pray? - by Soyouz - April 26, 2013 at 1:39 pm
RE: Why pray? - by Minimalist - April 26, 2013 at 1:46 pm
RE: Why pray? - by Tex - April 26, 2013 at 2:47 pm
RE: Why pray? - by Darkstar - April 26, 2013 at 2:57 pm
RE: Why pray? - by Raven - April 26, 2013 at 3:26 pm
RE: Why pray? - by Tonus - April 26, 2013 at 7:27 pm
RE: Why pray? - by Raven - April 26, 2013 at 7:32 pm
RE: Why pray? - by Tex - April 26, 2013 at 3:37 pm
RE: Why pray? - by Darkstar - April 26, 2013 at 6:23 pm
RE: Why pray? - by Neo-Scholastic - April 27, 2013 at 12:03 am
RE: Why pray? - by Darkstar - April 27, 2013 at 1:01 am
RE: Why pray? - by Zen Badger - April 28, 2013 at 7:18 am
RE: Why pray? - by Ryantology - April 26, 2013 at 3:49 pm
RE: Why pray? - by Gabriel Syme - April 26, 2013 at 4:20 pm
RE: Why pray? - by Soyouz - April 27, 2013 at 5:02 am
RE: Why pray? - by Tex - April 26, 2013 at 4:23 pm
RE: Why pray? - by Gabriel Syme - April 26, 2013 at 4:27 pm
RE: Why pray? - by wwjs - April 26, 2013 at 4:37 pm
RE: Why pray? - by Tex - April 26, 2013 at 4:45 pm
RE: Why pray? - by Raven - April 26, 2013 at 5:10 pm
RE: Why pray? - by pocaracas - April 27, 2013 at 7:29 am
RE: Why pray? - by Raven - April 27, 2013 at 9:57 am
RE: Why pray? - by justin - April 27, 2013 at 10:56 pm
RE: Why pray? - by Minimalist - April 28, 2013 at 12:40 pm
RE: Why pray? - by Minimalist - April 28, 2013 at 2:57 pm
RE: Why pray? - by iameatingjam - April 28, 2013 at 3:17 pm

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