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Extending euthanasia to minors
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RE: Extending euthanasia to minors
(April 29, 2013 at 6:29 pm)Insanity x Wrote:
(April 29, 2013 at 4:55 pm)Tex Wrote: Euthanasia is glorified suicide and is just as immoral.

Don't help euthanize anyone then. Its that simple.

Well of course not. But I also have to find the doctor and charge him with murder. If the doctor has a euthanasia appointment and the cops get there first, it's just attempted murder. The guy who wants it then can be sent to a psych ward to get the help he needs.

(April 29, 2013 at 6:48 pm)Napoléon Wrote:
(April 29, 2013 at 6:20 pm)Tex Wrote: Don't think I said any of this. I'm not pro-torture.

What are you then? Sitting on the fence?

Please explain what action you think is moral if a person requests euthanasia when they are in the kind of pain I described, and they do not have the means to end their lives without assistance.

You say euthanasia is immoral, what action do you think is more moral then than giving a person in such a condition their wish?

If a person requests euthanasia, regardless of circumstance, the request should be denied. If there is lots of pain, you give them morphine. If all the morphine in the world doesn't stop the pain, you look for a way to stop the pain that doesn't involve killing the person. Granting people's wish does not make it moral.

(April 29, 2013 at 7:08 pm)Chuck Wrote:
(April 29, 2013 at 4:55 pm)Tex Wrote: Euthanasia is glorified suicide and is just as immoral.

Leave it to a christian to sing the praises of the subjugation of reason to the make belief even when doing so is torture, to which he would then added the additional immorality of deception.

Ad hom. Attack the argument, please.

Either way, you are unreasonable, not me. You support murder. I desire to help the individual, not kill them.

(April 29, 2013 at 7:44 pm)Faith No More Wrote:
(April 29, 2013 at 6:20 pm)Tex Wrote: Funny, I don't think the bible mentions much on the ethics of suicide, at least directly. I get this from logic.

Well, don't stop there. Please, enlighten us as to how you've used logic to conclude euthanasia is immoral.

And make it good, because if you're going to insist that someone suffer through a painful process that he/she will die from anyway, you better have a damn good reason.

Sure.

If someone is living and we go out of our way to halt their life, it is called "murder". "Murder" is bad. We want to avoid "murder". If they do it by themselves, it is called "suicide". "Suicide" is also bad. We don't want that either.

Instead, a better option is to find the problem and fix it. If we don't know how to fix it, we figure out how to fix it. For every person that is in pain and just says "Fuck it, I'm done" is one more person in pain later down the road for the same reason. The people in pain can have whatever pain medication will help, but never can we facilitate death. Those people are still valuable. We should not destroy them.
The Lord bless you and keep you; the Lord make his face to shine upon you and be gracious to you; the Lord lift up his countenance upon you and give you peace.
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Messages In This Thread
Extending euthanasia to minors - by L.A.F. - April 29, 2013 at 2:48 pm
RE: Extending euthanasia to minors - by Darkstar - April 29, 2013 at 2:54 pm
RE: Extending euthanasia to minors - by Anomalocaris - April 29, 2013 at 3:11 pm
RE: Extending euthanasia to minors - by Faith No More - April 29, 2013 at 4:04 pm
RE: Extending euthanasia to minors - by Tex - April 29, 2013 at 4:55 pm
RE: Extending euthanasia to minors - by Napoléon - April 29, 2013 at 6:01 pm
RE: Extending euthanasia to minors - by Tex - April 29, 2013 at 6:20 pm
RE: Extending euthanasia to minors - by Napoléon - April 29, 2013 at 6:48 pm
RE: Extending euthanasia to minors - by Faith No More - April 29, 2013 at 7:44 pm
RE: Extending euthanasia to minors - by wwjs - April 29, 2013 at 11:27 pm
RE: Extending euthanasia to minors - by KichigaiNeko - April 30, 2013 at 8:47 am
RE: Extending euthanasia to minors - by Ben Davis - April 29, 2013 at 6:03 pm
RE: Extending euthanasia to minors - by wwjs - April 29, 2013 at 6:08 pm
RE: Extending euthanasia to minors - by Nine - April 29, 2013 at 6:29 pm
RE: Extending euthanasia to minors - by Tex - April 29, 2013 at 8:47 pm
RE: Extending euthanasia to minors - by Faith No More - April 29, 2013 at 9:04 pm
RE: Extending euthanasia to minors - by Tex - May 1, 2013 at 2:58 pm
RE: Extending euthanasia to minors - by wwjs - May 1, 2013 at 3:20 pm
RE: Extending euthanasia to minors - by Tex - May 1, 2013 at 6:33 pm
RE: Extending euthanasia to minors - by festive1 - May 1, 2013 at 9:41 pm
RE: Extending euthanasia to minors - by Tonus - May 1, 2013 at 3:57 pm
RE: Extending euthanasia to minors - by Darkstar - April 29, 2013 at 9:05 pm
RE: Extending euthanasia to minors - by Napoléon - April 30, 2013 at 12:06 pm
RE: Extending euthanasia to minors - by Anomalocaris - April 29, 2013 at 7:08 pm
RE: Extending euthanasia to minors - by CleanShavenJesus - April 29, 2013 at 9:33 pm
RE: Extending euthanasia to minors - by Minimalist - April 29, 2013 at 11:35 pm
RE: Extending euthanasia to minors - by pocaracas - April 29, 2013 at 5:57 pm
RE: Extending euthanasia to minors - by L.A.F. - April 30, 2013 at 12:14 pm
RE: Extending euthanasia to minors - by A_Nony_Mouse - April 29, 2013 at 9:40 pm
RE: Extending euthanasia to minors - by A_Nony_Mouse - April 30, 2013 at 11:49 am
RE: Extending euthanasia to minors - by Minimalist - April 30, 2013 at 6:56 pm
RE: Extending euthanasia to minors - by Anomalocaris - April 30, 2013 at 7:08 pm
RE: Extending euthanasia to minors - by downbeatplumb - April 30, 2013 at 1:42 pm
RE: Extending euthanasia to minors - by Ryantology - May 1, 2013 at 3:34 pm
RE: Extending euthanasia to minors - by Ryantology - May 1, 2013 at 6:55 pm

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