RE: Atheism, Theism, Science & Philosophy
May 1, 2013 at 9:09 am
(This post was last modified: May 1, 2013 at 9:09 am by Love.)
(May 1, 2013 at 12:51 am)whateverist Wrote: Well if that is all you meant by "guided" then it would be awfully hard to tell the difference between such divine participation and the nature of physics and chemistry being as they are without such guidance.
But that surprises me. From what you said before, I would've expected much more divine involvement that that.*
Yes, I understand Occam's Razor and I can see that invoking God to explain abiogenesis and evolution might be perceived as gratuitous and superfluous. Although it could be considered as an argument from personal incredulity, I cannot comprehend the following idea: the pure, unguided process of evolution from the last universal common ancestor (prokaryotic cell) eventually evolved into the outrageously sophisticated human brain, including subjective consciousness, all in the name of survival and gene propagation. I am not saying that it is impossible, and I might obviously be completely incorrect, but the process of evolution being unguided just doesn't make a great deal of sense to me. Clearly you think unguided makes more sense; therefore, we should just agree to disagree.
(May 1, 2013 at 12:51 am)whateverist Wrote: And why is natural selection unworthy of having been utilized by god? Natural selection surely is the way of it, so if god did not intend for it to play the role it does, then god is not responsible for the animals we see today .. including us of course.
When I stated that God implemented the laws of physics of chemistry, this includes the laws of biology and natural selection (which are ultimately governed by the laws of physics and chemistry).
(April 30, 2013 at 2:04 pm)Love Wrote: WTF? Are you kidding me? God creates the conditions for abiogenesis and 'evolution' but you guys want to second guess the invention of sex and its role? How about speeding up the rate of variation/mutation thus allowing for -among other critters- us to evolve within the useful lifetime of the star we circle?
Well, there are many competing theories as to why sexual reproduction evolved; you appear to have chosen the idea that makes the most sense to you. It is another complex area. I am skeptical as to whether there will ever be a single interpretation of the available evidence (like quantum mechanics).
