(May 1, 2013 at 1:09 pm)ThomM Wrote:(April 30, 2013 at 11:07 pm)Godschild Wrote: [quote='goodnews' pid='438235' dateline='1367251937']
God is responsible but he is not to blame,
Since the god is not proven to actually exist - it cannot be blamed for anything - nor is it proven to be responsible for anything
And since most of the bible is actually FICTIONAL material - then we have NO reason to give a god CREDIT for anything either.
However - even if YOU consider the bible to be a allegory or a metaphor - the problem is that it does NOT support the claim of the benevolent god that xtians like to claim. The story of the Passover - even as an allegory - is a story of a great MURDER of people nor responsible for the actions of the pharaoh. The stories of the great flood - and Sodom and Gomorrah - are examples of the murder of the 20& of a population that would be too young to actually be responsible for their own actions - ie - babies and young children before the age of reason and responsibility.
But the biggest problem that even modified Monotheistic religions have - when they claim ONE creator - is that if the creator created everything - it had to create evil. No other being has that ability - ie - the ability to create. And worse - since the Xtian god is also claimed to be the ULTIMATE power extant - with nothing being impossible for it - then WHY claim a war against evil - because evil could NOT exist unless the god both created it and allows it to exist.
IF the god is ALL GOOD - why does it not just eliminate evil
And the correct answer is that the god is a creation of HUMANS - whose explanations of their creations are too convoluted and contradictory to actually be possible. So - the idea that a god exists is a JOKE.
Why can't people bring new arguments, we've been over this stuff so many times it's boring, Christians have refuted this junk.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
