RE: Locked in the dogma
May 9, 2013 at 8:37 am
(This post was last modified: May 9, 2013 at 9:16 am by Little Rik.)
(May 8, 2013 at 6:31 am)Godschild Wrote:(May 3, 2013 at 10:44 am)enrico Wrote:
When i asked Godschild how all the people who born before Jesus or those who never heard about him could be saved he failed to reply.
Of course he can not reply considering that his knowledge is based on dogma.
I must have missed your request, sorry. Those who do not get a chance to hear about Jesus and I do mean witnessed to God will judge them on their belief there is a God and how they lived according to that belief. What all is taken into consideration by God is up to Him. Those who came before Christ, the same thing, there is no way I or anyone else could give a complete answer because we are not God and thus do not know all He has planned.
It does not make any sense.
Suppose i am God.
After a million of years that i created humans i then decided to send my son Jesus on planet earth so those who follow him may be saved.
Very strange indeed.
Why did he wait to send Jesus after a million of years or so?
And why put so many people in situation in which they can not change their religion?
Sorry, too many excuses, that is why the only explanation is that it is the usual dogma invented by the caste of priest in order to become intermediaries between the masses and God.
(May 8, 2013 at 8:54 am)Stimbo Wrote:(May 8, 2013 at 4:40 am)enrico Wrote: Dear Stimbo what you are referring to is the tip of the iceberg.
You got to bring up the whole of the iceberg to see the real thing and this happen by practicing spirituality.
Theory may be good but without practice you can only see the tip of the iceberg.
We got many glands that control all our existence.
The glands that allow you to feel those nice feeling and sentiment that you described are located lower then the one that i am talking about (pineal gland).
Spiritual love is at the very top of everything else.
But it takes time to realize this truth and i can understand you.
When anything I can possibly say regarding my own thoughts, feelings and experiences of my life as it pertains to reality is dismissed as casually as this then the discussion is over, as any further dialogue is rendered completely pointless. You are of course entitled to your own opinions but until you can demonstrate that this special superior truth that you are privy to is even something that exists in reality, so am I. My world - i.e. the world that all life appears to agree upon as a common, shared experience - functions perfectly fine without this mystical fluff. I'm happy to continue in my ignorance, thanks all the same.
Your feelings are not dismissed as casually at all.
I am rather saying that the more you climb the ladder of emancipation and the more you will feel.
When you take a lift to the first floor you can see a little but when you take the lift to the top floor you have a much better vision.
The same thing apply when you activate the glands located along our spinal column.
At the bottom you have the gland controlling the matter, then the one controlling the liquid, then light (heat) air, space mind and spirit.
Materialistic people are happy living in the material world but the point is HOW DO THEY KNOW HOW GOOD IS LIVING AT THE TOP IF THEY NEVER CARE TO GET THERE?
These people are totally convinced that their vision is the ultimate.
(May 8, 2013 at 10:06 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: Sorry enrico. But your prosthelytizing is just so lame and immune to the wonders that atheists acknowledge and understand and our desire to know of what we DON'T understand to the point that you look rather foolish and child like in your views.
No sale for your deity here mate
I am here to confront my ideas with yours not to convert you.
I am not running a church or a religion so i have nothing to gain.
It is your life. You create your own karma.