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Atheism, what led you?
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RE: Atheism, what led you?
just started asking questions that religious people couldn't answer and being told to "just have faith". this wasnt enough for me....plus, believing that such a supernatural being exists is like not believing that fairies and unicorns exist.....

(May 9, 2013 at 11:29 am)Raven Wrote:
(May 1, 2013 at 10:25 am)TosinAsLeader Wrote: Whether your an atheist or agnostic etc, what led you to what you believe in today? Also, why do you believe in what you believe in?

OK, here goes: I don't believe that there is anyone here but us, so to speak.
I reject the notion of there being any sort of omnimax deity such as you get in the Bible. I was raised in the Catholic church, historically one of the most corrupt and hypocritical institutions ever known to humankind. Leaving the institution itself aside, the belief system just did not work for me. The thing that really did in any belief in a god was what is often referred to as the argument from evil. I'm defining evil here as anything that is harmful, period. So that would include disease or natural disasters. I am aware there is no intent involved with natural forces, but my point is that people still get hurt. With all of the evil you have in this world, God, if he existed, was not doing his job.

Those nuns and brothers in school never wanted to address that. How many times can you be told "God moves in mysterious ways" or "Humans are not capable of understanding God's plan" before you want to scream? He is supposed to be our heavenly father, right? Jesus said that "Are not two sparrows sold for a penny? Yet not one of them will fall to the ground outside your Father’s care.b 30And even the very hairs of your head are all numbered. 31So don’t be afraid; you are worth more than many sparrows." That may be true, but what good does it do any of us? People still suffer and he still does not do anything about it. Why are innocent children born blind, or otherwise disabled? If a god does indeed exist then he is not doing a very good job. So what good is he? Furthermore, the god of the old testament is just plain malevolent, as can be seen in bible story after bible story.

So eventually I had to come to the conclusion that either god did not exist or that if he did, he wasn't a god I had desire to have anything to do with.

There are, of course many other arguments against the existence of a deity. The sheer lack of evidence should be enough, I would think. But when someone gets raised in a given faith, then they are not getting out easily or soon. Especially when you've been through 12 years of religious schools, had a fanatical mom, a sister who became a Sunday school teacher and another who became a nun.

So, for whatever it is worth there you are. Cool Shades

I am very much the same as you. If such a perfect god existed, why is there so much suffering, most of the world is in suffering, thanks to the situation of my parents and upbringing, i was brought up in a much safer, cleaner, liberal society. but i cannot imagine what every single person in suffering is going through....for such people to live such horrible and painful lives, i wonder what god they praise, what would they be praising such a god for? for me, if a god exists, it is definitely not a god i wish to subscribe to or praise.
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Atheism, what led you? - by TosinAsLeader - May 1, 2013 at 10:25 am
RE: Atheism, what led you? - by Joel - May 1, 2013 at 10:27 am
RE: Atheism, what led you? - by TosinAsLeader - May 6, 2013 at 3:25 pm
RE: Atheism, what led you? - by KichigaiNeko - May 1, 2013 at 10:28 am
RE: Atheism, what led you? - by LastPoet - May 1, 2013 at 10:28 am
RE: Atheism, what led you? - by KichigaiNeko - May 1, 2013 at 10:33 am
RE: Atheism, what led you? - by frankiej - May 1, 2013 at 10:29 am
RE: Atheism, what led you? - by TosinAsLeader - May 6, 2013 at 3:51 pm
RE: Atheism, what led you? - by frankiej - May 6, 2013 at 3:59 pm
RE: Atheism, what led you? - by Kayenneh - May 1, 2013 at 11:54 am
RE: Atheism, what led you? - by JesusHChrist - May 1, 2013 at 12:14 pm
RE: Atheism, what led you? - by downbeatplumb - May 1, 2013 at 12:16 pm
RE: Atheism, what led you? - by Baalzebutt - May 1, 2013 at 12:21 pm
RE: Atheism, what led you? - by Simon Moon - May 1, 2013 at 12:32 pm
RE: Atheism, what led you? - by TosinAsLeader - May 6, 2013 at 4:04 pm
RE: Atheism, what led you? - by Tonus - May 6, 2013 at 4:06 pm
RE: Atheism, what led you? - by zebo-the-fat - May 1, 2013 at 1:23 pm
RE: Atheism, what led you? - by pocaracas - May 2, 2013 at 10:34 am
RE: Atheism, what led you? - by TosinAsLeader - May 6, 2013 at 4:08 pm
RE: Atheism, what led you? - by pocaracas - May 6, 2013 at 5:20 pm
RE: Atheism, what led you? - by TosinAsLeader - May 7, 2013 at 12:37 pm
RE: Atheism, what led you? - by The Reality Salesman - May 2, 2013 at 11:05 am
RE: Atheism, what led you? - by Joel - May 6, 2013 at 4:01 pm
RE: Atheism, what led you? - by Joel - May 6, 2013 at 4:11 pm
RE: Atheism, what led you? - by TosinAsLeader - May 6, 2013 at 4:15 pm
RE: Atheism, what led you? - by Silver - May 6, 2013 at 4:20 pm
RE: Atheism, what led you? - by Tonus - May 6, 2013 at 4:25 pm
RE: Atheism, what led you? - by Joel - May 6, 2013 at 4:18 pm
RE: Atheism, what led you? - by TosinAsLeader - May 6, 2013 at 4:37 pm
RE: Atheism, what led you? - by Gearbreak - May 6, 2013 at 5:34 pm
RE: Atheism, what led you? - by Simon Moon - May 7, 2013 at 1:11 pm
RE: Atheism, what led you? - by Gearbreak - May 8, 2013 at 8:05 pm
RE: Atheism, what led you? - by The Reality Salesman - May 8, 2013 at 7:29 pm
RE: Atheism, what led you? - by TosinAsLeader - May 9, 2013 at 9:33 am
RE: Atheism, what led you? - by The Reality Salesman - May 9, 2013 at 10:24 am
RE: Atheism, what led you? - by TosinAsLeader - May 10, 2013 at 3:41 pm
RE: Atheism, what led you? - by The Reality Salesman - May 10, 2013 at 4:05 pm
RE: Atheism, what led you? - by TosinAsLeader - May 11, 2013 at 6:00 pm
RE: Atheism, what led you? - by Silver - May 11, 2013 at 6:03 pm
RE: Atheism, what led you? - by The Reality Salesman - May 12, 2013 at 12:22 am
RE: Atheism, what led you? - by Faith No More - May 9, 2013 at 9:39 am
RE: Atheism, what led you? - by TosinAsLeader - May 9, 2013 at 9:40 am
RE: Atheism, what led you? - by Faith No More - May 9, 2013 at 9:45 am
RE: Atheism, what led you? - by pocaracas - May 9, 2013 at 9:53 am
RE: Atheism, what led you? - by Raven - May 9, 2013 at 11:29 am
RE: Atheism, what led you? - by Neo-Scholastic - May 10, 2013 at 4:37 pm
RE: Atheism, what led you? - by The Reality Salesman - May 10, 2013 at 4:41 pm
RE: Atheism, what led you? - by Ucaslog1 - May 9, 2013 at 11:35 am
RE: Atheism, what led you? - by DeardoG - May 10, 2013 at 10:21 pm
RE: Atheism, what led you? - by Violet - May 12, 2013 at 8:32 pm
RE: Atheism, what led you? - by The Grand Nudger - May 12, 2013 at 8:56 pm
RE: Atheism, what led you? - by dazzn - May 12, 2013 at 10:07 pm

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