RE: Locked in the dogma
May 10, 2013 at 10:02 am
(This post was last modified: May 10, 2013 at 10:40 am by Little Rik.)
(May 9, 2013 at 12:29 pm)apophenia Wrote:
Many mystical traditions "claim" that the truth can only be known through experience. (meditation, yoga, whatever) None has ever been able to demonstrate that what they have found is truth. The way they have defined it, it can't be demonstrated. So do we take such assertions on faith? Or do we acknowledge that while yes, there may be aspects of living that can only be understood nonverbally, the mind has a great capacity to fool itself, and desperately seeking after these experiences is simply priming the mind to tell itself lies?
To explore a new realm is fascinating and delightful. However, before you explore that realm, take a care to be sure that it actually exists. If you convince yourself that it exists, when it does not, and let your mind's powers of imagination convince you you are exploring that world when you are just being fooled by a mind eager to satisfy itself, you have not enhanced your world, you have taken away from its overall quality by squandering your resources in pointless head games and believing things that aren't true.
You climb the mountain. When you get at very top you enjoy a beautiful feeling (the vision and all other inner feeling and the satisfaction to be there).
When you get dawn to earth your friend ask you...........WAS IT NICE TO BE THERE AT THE VERY TOP?
You try your best to describe how nice was to be there.
Unfortunately your friend can only grasp less then 1% of what you where feeling when you were up there.
That is how the system works.
Unless you climb up there yourself there is no way in the world that you can feel that magical feeling to be up there.
At the same time unless you practice what i am talking about there is no way i can demonstrate or make you feel what i feel.
This of course does not mean that what i am talking does not exist.
In other term refusing to understand this point is a clear sign of locking oneself into the dogma.
(May 10, 2013 at 9:21 am)Stimbo Wrote:(May 9, 2013 at 8:37 am)enrico Wrote: Your feelings are not dismissed as casually at all.
I am rather saying that the more you climb the ladder of emancipation and the more you will feel.
When you take a lift to the first floor you can see a little but when you take the lift to the top floor you have a much better vision.
The same thing apply when you activate the glands located along our spinal column.
At the bottom you have the gland controlling the matter, then the one controlling the liquid, then light (heat) air, space mind and spirit.
Materialistic people are happy living in the material world but the point is HOW DO THEY KNOW HOW GOOD IS LIVING AT THE TOP IF THEY NEVER CARE TO GET THERE?
These people are totally convinced that their vision is the ultimate.
Since my brain, and thus my eyes, are located at the top of my spinal column above all my glands, does that mean that my vision is indeed the ultimate?
1) It is the pineal gland at the very top, not your eyes.
2) Your eyes are only an instrument that YOU use to collect information and your brain is a storage of information. Again it is important not to confuse the driver with the vehicle.
3) The main 7 glands are the key to reach the ultimate feeling not the eyes or the brain.
Quote:Apart from which I live in a fourth floor flat and take the stairs.
I hope you understand that it was an example when i said that to be at the top you may have a better vision.
Quote:Also, shouting at me doesn't make your point any better. On the contrary it's more likely to make me think your points lack substance.
Some people swear when they want to be heard like Minimalist and Stimbo, other people like Enrico sometime write small sentences in upper case.
Who said.........Let He Who Is Without Sin Cast The First Stone?