(May 17, 2013 at 12:14 pm)apophenia Wrote:(May 17, 2013 at 8:50 am)enrico Wrote: Unfortunately the process of control evolution is unable to go over the border of reason and therefore to decide what is good or bad in order to progress as the consciousness is concern.
Without the consciousness the vehicle can still move if programmed to do so but no real progress is made.
In other words is all in vain.
The day you will be able to give a consciousness to a robot let me know.
I will give you countless of Kudus.
Ah yes, being proved wrong on the point, you simply move the goalposts from a robot requiring a mind to program it to the robot not being demonstrably conscious.
Tell me how you know that a robot which can learn to move on its own cannot become conscious by the same route?
People might take you more seriously about the ineffable if you demonstrated sound reasoning about the effable.
Proven wrong?
Not at all.
As far as your robot is programmed to do only the right thing and not to think with his own free will which of course is lacking there is no way that this state of doing things will ever lead to progress in his own conscious which of course is lacking.
In other words as i already said it will be all in vain as far as individual progress.
As far as material-scientific development it will be a success but here we are not talking about this.
Here we are talking about minds with free will and free will is sentient unlike your robot that lack this important factor so a robot without free will can not be sentient as you claim.
Now the fact that this robot will be able to drive the car mean absolutely nothing. It is like a body carried by artificial means.
The progress will only be in the physical sphere, not certainly in the consciousness one which is not present.
Would you really care what happen to your body when you are not connected to it anymore?
