It was earlier mentioned that animals have central nervous systems and in larger ones they are similar to a human's and that therefore they must have the same human desires to live and ability to feel pain.
I just want to state quite flatly: Similarity =/= proximity. You know what else has a central nervous system? Insects. I wonder if you are so careful when it comes to termites or ants or spiders as you are when it comes to respecting their desire to live. A desire you are not even sure of. See, that's the thing; vegetarians have to convince me of their bullshit. They are the ones making an appeal to morality: "animals have the desire to live, so we can't eat meat morally!" Except no brain study of an animal has ever managed to show that they have even a fraction of the emotional range we do, much less the ability to comprehend just what death even means or to consider what life itself is. You're saying we should all just swear off meat until it's been proven or disproven but the thing is it can't be because it's a claim with the most minimal foundation and when asked for evidence that should be easy obtain it starts shuffling its little claim-feet and mumbling that studies have been made but they don't actually show any kind of proof of animals exhibiting even CLOSE to the same amount of thought processes as human beings. Fuck THAT, if I held off on everything until everyone's bullshit claims could be proven or disproven, I'd never fucking do anything because there's always someone with some stupid bullshit. You keep dismissing plants as having feelings, yet we have evidence that they CAN fucking feel shit.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/05...71027.html
They can apparently do approximations or similarities towards feeling or hearing or smelling and remembering things. Approximations! Kind of like the approximations you INSIST we consider to be actually comparable between humans and animals. APPROXIMATIONS of wanting to live or APPROXIMATIONS of feeling how we do. Well where do you suddenly draw the line? At a nervous system? Why? Do YOU understand fully how a plant operates? Clearly not because plants can apparently do things animals can, MUST MEAN THEY'RE CLOSE ENOUGH TO ANIMALS TO NOT EAT, THEN.
Do you see the slope of slipperiness on which your bullshit mentality stands upon? Do you see how far down it is and how fucking stupid it was to climb this slope? Because down at the bottom entails never eating. Ok? You've made some pitiful appeals to emotion and morality without any basis, and you've tried to use the argument that because they have brains they must feel and be sensitive, yet plants exhibit such things WITHOUT brains, which takes away any weight your argument has.
Just shut up and quit bitching and eat a damn steak.
I just want to state quite flatly: Similarity =/= proximity. You know what else has a central nervous system? Insects. I wonder if you are so careful when it comes to termites or ants or spiders as you are when it comes to respecting their desire to live. A desire you are not even sure of. See, that's the thing; vegetarians have to convince me of their bullshit. They are the ones making an appeal to morality: "animals have the desire to live, so we can't eat meat morally!" Except no brain study of an animal has ever managed to show that they have even a fraction of the emotional range we do, much less the ability to comprehend just what death even means or to consider what life itself is. You're saying we should all just swear off meat until it's been proven or disproven but the thing is it can't be because it's a claim with the most minimal foundation and when asked for evidence that should be easy obtain it starts shuffling its little claim-feet and mumbling that studies have been made but they don't actually show any kind of proof of animals exhibiting even CLOSE to the same amount of thought processes as human beings. Fuck THAT, if I held off on everything until everyone's bullshit claims could be proven or disproven, I'd never fucking do anything because there's always someone with some stupid bullshit. You keep dismissing plants as having feelings, yet we have evidence that they CAN fucking feel shit.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/05...71027.html
They can apparently do approximations or similarities towards feeling or hearing or smelling and remembering things. Approximations! Kind of like the approximations you INSIST we consider to be actually comparable between humans and animals. APPROXIMATIONS of wanting to live or APPROXIMATIONS of feeling how we do. Well where do you suddenly draw the line? At a nervous system? Why? Do YOU understand fully how a plant operates? Clearly not because plants can apparently do things animals can, MUST MEAN THEY'RE CLOSE ENOUGH TO ANIMALS TO NOT EAT, THEN.
Do you see the slope of slipperiness on which your bullshit mentality stands upon? Do you see how far down it is and how fucking stupid it was to climb this slope? Because down at the bottom entails never eating. Ok? You've made some pitiful appeals to emotion and morality without any basis, and you've tried to use the argument that because they have brains they must feel and be sensitive, yet plants exhibit such things WITHOUT brains, which takes away any weight your argument has.
Just shut up and quit bitching and eat a damn steak.
