(May 19, 2013 at 11:47 am)Creed of Heresy Wrote: It won't help either way, but he is laying the claim that eating meat is itself immoral...when there are starving children out there in the world who never get ANY food. He has no factual basis in his claim about eating animals being immoral in any way, so it's merely his opinion...meaning he's in a nation, a culture of plenty, and saying that eating meat is unanimously wrong because it's immoral. And I'm asking, what about those starving children? If you cannot value a human life over an animal life...that means you would deny them much-needed sustenance if it came from the death of an animal.I see. Apparently I took your post completely out of context and thought you meant vegetarianism in general and not the just "I'm more moral than you!" cunts. Sorry about that. lol
It has nothing to do with actually helping starving children. I do that at the soup kitchen, and it's good as I can give since my travel abilities are kind of non-existent right now. It's a matter of taking some smug holier-than-thou stance of supposed morality, which when you look at it, isn't nearly a quarter as noble as this halfwit would like to think. It's ok, at best, if you're a vegetarian for health reasons; the science is inconclusive but if you honestly believe it's better for you, whatever. But the moment someone starts trying to lord themselves around as some paragon of morality when the most these armchair crusaders do is type furiously at a keyboard, by utilizing what is in reality a pretty fucking immoral set of ideas, then their ass is mine.
(May 19, 2013 at 11:49 am)littleendian Wrote: Regardless of whether vegetables suffer or not (and there is a good argument for that they don't suffer or at least not to the same extent as animals, see above), it is a necessity for me to eat plants or otherwise I die. Therefore, this is no more a moral question than it would be to ask whether anti-biotics are immoral because they kill bacteria which invade our body. This all serves self-preservation which is never immoral. What is immoral, however, is to kill someone for ones selfish indulgance.No, it is not a necessity for you to eat plants that have been killed for food. Fruitarians don't all drop dead, do they?
And antibiotics are used to treat non-fatal infections all the damn time. We are killing the bacteria just to make ourselves more comfortable! Poor widdle bacteria!!!!!
