Argument from evil, restated

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Argument from evil, restated

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RE: Argument from evil, restated

May 21, 2013 at 4:07 pm (This post was last modified: May 21, 2013 at 4:08 pm by John V.)

(May 21, 2013 at 3:55 pm)Praetorian Wrote: Do you see how that reasoning is circular, though?

No.

Quote:If you consider that he brought everything into existence in the first place, he need not have made the people he did not want a relationship with. He need not have created the evil which led to Adam's bad choice in the first place.

Again, depth of relationship is dependent on knowledge. The relationship cannot be as deep if important parts of his personality are hidden.

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Argument from evil, restated - by Praetorian - May 21, 2013 at 2:47 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Drich - May 21, 2013 at 3:05 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Minimalist - May 21, 2013 at 3:13 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Praetorian - May 21, 2013 at 3:55 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by John V - May 21, 2013 at 4:07 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Drich - May 21, 2013 at 7:23 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Drich - May 21, 2013 at 7:03 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Minimalist - May 21, 2013 at 9:42 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Drich - May 22, 2013 at 12:44 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Undeceived - May 21, 2013 at 11:11 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Ryantology - May 21, 2013 at 3:14 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Godschild - May 22, 2013 at 12:40 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by John V - May 21, 2013 at 3:16 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Ryantology - May 21, 2013 at 4:12 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by John V - May 21, 2013 at 4:36 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Minimalist - May 21, 2013 at 3:59 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Praetorian - May 21, 2013 at 5:48 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by John V - May 22, 2013 at 8:30 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Sal - May 21, 2013 at 6:17 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Raven - May 21, 2013 at 6:37 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Neo-Scholastic - May 21, 2013 at 6:54 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Praetorian - May 21, 2013 at 7:08 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Neo-Scholastic - May 21, 2013 at 10:37 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Ryantology - May 21, 2013 at 11:17 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Neo-Scholastic - May 22, 2013 at 8:32 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Brakeman - May 21, 2013 at 9:32 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Minimalist - May 21, 2013 at 11:14 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Godschild - May 22, 2013 at 1:58 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Minimalist - May 22, 2013 at 2:17 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Godschild - May 22, 2013 at 2:44 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Praetorian - May 22, 2013 at 2:18 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Minimalist - May 22, 2013 at 2:21 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Drich - May 22, 2013 at 7:56 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Praetorian - May 22, 2013 at 2:54 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Godschild - May 22, 2013 at 11:20 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Fidel_Castronaut - May 23, 2013 at 8:06 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Godschild - May 23, 2013 at 3:48 pm

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