Argument from evil, restated

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Argument from evil, restated

Sal

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RE: Argument from evil, restated

May 21, 2013 at 6:17 pm

The usual (apologetic) answer is that by eating a fruit of the Tree of Knowledge, sin entered into the world, which should (in their view anyways) explain why we have Evil in the world.

My usual contention is that Adam & Eve could not differentiate between good and evil before eating of the Tree of Knowledge, so their action couldn't have been what justifies god's actions by throwing them out of Eden. IOW: it was a setup by the get-go.

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Argument from evil, restated - by Praetorian - May 21, 2013 at 2:47 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Drich - May 21, 2013 at 3:05 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Minimalist - May 21, 2013 at 3:13 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Praetorian - May 21, 2013 at 3:55 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by John V - May 21, 2013 at 4:07 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Drich - May 21, 2013 at 7:23 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Drich - May 21, 2013 at 7:03 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Minimalist - May 21, 2013 at 9:42 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Drich - May 22, 2013 at 12:44 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Undeceived - May 21, 2013 at 11:11 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Ryantology - May 21, 2013 at 3:14 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Godschild - May 22, 2013 at 12:40 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by John V - May 21, 2013 at 3:16 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Ryantology - May 21, 2013 at 4:12 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by John V - May 21, 2013 at 4:36 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Minimalist - May 21, 2013 at 3:59 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Praetorian - May 21, 2013 at 5:48 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by John V - May 22, 2013 at 8:30 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Sal - May 21, 2013 at 6:17 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Raven - May 21, 2013 at 6:37 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Neo-Scholastic - May 21, 2013 at 6:54 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Praetorian - May 21, 2013 at 7:08 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Neo-Scholastic - May 21, 2013 at 10:37 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Ryantology - May 21, 2013 at 11:17 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Neo-Scholastic - May 22, 2013 at 8:32 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Brakeman - May 21, 2013 at 9:32 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Minimalist - May 21, 2013 at 11:14 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Godschild - May 22, 2013 at 1:58 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Minimalist - May 22, 2013 at 2:17 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Godschild - May 22, 2013 at 2:44 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Praetorian - May 22, 2013 at 2:18 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Minimalist - May 22, 2013 at 2:21 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Drich - May 22, 2013 at 7:56 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Praetorian - May 22, 2013 at 2:54 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Godschild - May 22, 2013 at 11:20 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Fidel_Castronaut - May 23, 2013 at 8:06 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Godschild - May 23, 2013 at 3:48 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Fidel_Castronaut - May 24, 2013 at 1:35 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Godschild - May 24, 2013 at 5:57 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Ryantology - May 24, 2013 at 6:08 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Godschild - May 25, 2013 at 3:55 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Esquilax - May 25, 2013 at 4:42 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Ryantology - May 25, 2013 at 8:22 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by The Grand Nudger - May 22, 2013 at 8:10 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by The Grand Nudger - May 22, 2013 at 8:41 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Praetorian - May 22, 2013 at 3:04 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Godschild - May 22, 2013 at 4:39 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Ryantology - May 22, 2013 at 7:30 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by John V - May 22, 2013 at 7:07 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Neo-Scholastic - May 22, 2013 at 4:45 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Sal - May 22, 2013 at 7:00 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Praetorian - May 22, 2013 at 7:25 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Esquilax - May 22, 2013 at 9:15 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Neo-Scholastic - May 23, 2013 at 12:34 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Praetorian - May 23, 2013 at 2:26 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Godschild - May 23, 2013 at 3:20 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Neo-Scholastic - May 23, 2013 at 3:59 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Sal - May 23, 2013 at 4:07 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Neo-Scholastic - May 23, 2013 at 4:38 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by pocaracas - May 23, 2013 at 4:09 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Raven - May 23, 2013 at 5:11 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Godschild - May 23, 2013 at 12:28 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by John V - May 23, 2013 at 8:53 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by little_monkey - May 23, 2013 at 8:58 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by John V - May 23, 2013 at 10:13 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by little_monkey - May 23, 2013 at 10:18 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by John V - May 23, 2013 at 1:04 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by little_monkey - May 23, 2013 at 1:07 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by pocaracas - May 22, 2013 at 7:30 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Raven - May 23, 2013 at 2:10 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Drich - May 23, 2013 at 9:25 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Ryantology - May 24, 2013 at 12:02 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by John V - May 23, 2013 at 2:19 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Raven - May 23, 2013 at 2:27 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by John V - May 23, 2013 at 3:08 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Ryantology - May 23, 2013 at 3:20 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by John V - May 23, 2013 at 3:45 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Godschild - May 23, 2013 at 3:21 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by The Grand Nudger - May 23, 2013 at 3:01 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by The Grand Nudger - May 23, 2013 at 3:30 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by The Grand Nudger - May 23, 2013 at 3:48 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by The Grand Nudger - May 23, 2013 at 4:08 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by The Grand Nudger - May 23, 2013 at 4:45 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Neo-Scholastic - May 23, 2013 at 5:46 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by pocaracas - May 23, 2013 at 5:56 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Esquilax - May 23, 2013 at 9:00 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by The Grand Nudger - May 23, 2013 at 5:50 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Raven - May 23, 2013 at 5:56 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Praetorian - May 23, 2013 at 7:21 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Praetorian - May 23, 2013 at 11:28 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Drich - May 24, 2013 at 12:12 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Ryantology - May 24, 2013 at 12:25 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by FallentoReason - May 24, 2013 at 12:20 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Drich - May 24, 2013 at 12:27 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Godschild - May 24, 2013 at 1:03 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by FallentoReason - May 24, 2013 at 1:28 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Undeceived - May 24, 2013 at 2:13 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Esquilax - May 24, 2013 at 3:30 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by FallentoReason - May 24, 2013 at 9:30 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Neo-Scholastic - May 24, 2013 at 9:43 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by John V - May 24, 2013 at 11:43 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Neo-Scholastic - May 24, 2013 at 2:54 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Godschild - May 24, 2013 at 2:47 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Ryantology - May 24, 2013 at 11:16 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by The Grand Nudger - May 24, 2013 at 11:17 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Ryantology - May 24, 2013 at 1:21 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Praetorian - May 24, 2013 at 2:16 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Neo-Scholastic - May 24, 2013 at 3:07 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Sal - May 24, 2013 at 2:28 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by The Grand Nudger - May 24, 2013 at 2:30 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by The Grand Nudger - May 24, 2013 at 2:55 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by The Grand Nudger - May 24, 2013 at 3:14 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Praetorian - May 24, 2013 at 5:05 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by The Grand Nudger - May 24, 2013 at 6:01 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Neo-Scholastic - May 24, 2013 at 6:15 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Praetorian - May 24, 2013 at 6:08 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Drich - May 24, 2013 at 11:42 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Godschild - May 25, 2013 at 3:36 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Esquilax - May 25, 2013 at 3:41 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Fidel_Castronaut - May 25, 2013 at 3:44 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Godschild - May 25, 2013 at 5:03 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Esquilax - May 25, 2013 at 5:54 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Fidel_Castronaut - May 25, 2013 at 6:12 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by The Grand Nudger - May 24, 2013 at 6:31 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Fidel_Castronaut - May 24, 2013 at 6:34 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Godschild - May 25, 2013 at 3:25 am

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RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Neo-Scholastic - May 24, 2013 at 11:20 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by FallentoReason - May 24, 2013 at 11:32 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Neo-Scholastic - May 25, 2013 at 10:30 am

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RE: Argument from evil, restated - by The Grand Nudger - May 25, 2013 at 2:39 pm

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RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Origen - May 26, 2013 at 7:49 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Fidel_Castronaut - May 26, 2013 at 8:52 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Origen - May 26, 2013 at 10:32 pm

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RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Fidel_Castronaut - May 27, 2013 at 4:11 am

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RE: Argument from evil, restated - by John V - May 27, 2013 at 1:46 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by little_monkey - May 27, 2013 at 4:21 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Ryantology - May 27, 2013 at 5:51 pm

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RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Zarith - May 31, 2013 at 2:34 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Undeceived - June 1, 2013 at 11:44 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Undeceived - May 31, 2013 at 2:39 am

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RE: Argument from evil, restated - by The Grand Nudger - June 4, 2013 at 12:40 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Zarith - June 4, 2013 at 7:45 pm

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