Argument from evil, restated

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Argument from evil, restated

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RE: Argument from evil, restated

May 22, 2013 at 12:44 am (This post was last modified: May 22, 2013 at 12:49 am by Drich.)

(May 21, 2013 at 9:42 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
(May 21, 2013 at 7:03 pm)Drich Wrote: Please Minnie show me how what I have said contradicts what Isa 45 says.

You have previously denied that your fucking god said he created all "evil." Do you wish to retract that silly statement?

I am asking to see the statement great and wise one. Show me where I said God did not create evil.

(May 21, 2013 at 7:08 pm)Praetorian Wrote: I don't think you've said anything that contradicts Isaiah, but I might add that putting a barrier between the definitions of "sin" and "evil" makes my case stronger. If sin came into the world at the fall, then God went ahead and did bad things in addition to it. If sin and evil is the same concept, then you may still be able to make the claim that the only time God does "evil" is as punishment for those who disobeyed.

By who standards do you presume to judge the acts of God as 'bad things?'

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Argument from evil, restated - by Praetorian - May 21, 2013 at 2:47 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Drich - May 21, 2013 at 3:05 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Minimalist - May 21, 2013 at 3:13 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Praetorian - May 21, 2013 at 3:55 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by John V - May 21, 2013 at 4:07 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Drich - May 21, 2013 at 7:23 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Drich - May 21, 2013 at 7:03 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Minimalist - May 21, 2013 at 9:42 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Drich - May 22, 2013 at 12:44 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Undeceived - May 21, 2013 at 11:11 pm

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RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Minimalist - May 21, 2013 at 3:59 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Praetorian - May 21, 2013 at 5:48 pm

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RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Minimalist - May 21, 2013 at 11:14 pm

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RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Minimalist - May 22, 2013 at 2:17 am

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